Bat Path

[Bobby Shirer]

Barry’s bat doesn’t move until the middle goes, middle is driving the rotation...


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Barry's bat doesn't move until he can push against his legs and create rotation. His "hand" torque moves the bat so fast that he would never get the bat on plane or to the ball if he wasn't into his legs and able to create fast rotation.
@julray knows that Barry's "hit the ball on the plate" drill is strictly a hands demo with no legs or spine tilt......It's strictly a bat torque drill.

 

[Buttermaker]

Look at the position of BBs hands on the bat.
No door knocking knuckles here. He's gonna apply shear forces on the handle and create torque.
How would this knuckle/hand alignment be conducive to a radial/ulnar wrist deviation? Not! The way they're aligned they couldn't act in unison.

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[Bobby Shirer]

Not sure why you are asking me this Bobby? I've never said anything about just using the obliques.. as a matter of fact I said the opposite

Agreed
@Buttermaker is proposing a passive back leg and you've been asking , "Why not use both? " and that is a good question.
More is more, "Why not use both legs?" God gave most of us two and he'd be disappointed if we favored one over the other or didn't use them to their full advantage.

 

[julray]

Barry's bat doesn't move until he can push against his legs and create rotation. His "hand" torque moves the bat so fast that he would never get the bat on plane or to the ball if he wasn't into his legs and able to create fast rotation.
@julray knows that Barry's "hit the ball on the plate" drill is strictly a hands demo with no legs or spine tilt......It's strictly a bat torque drill.

Bobby, I think you are one beer short of a 24. I am not sure why you keep referring to and referencing my name. I've never said anything about the Bonds drill being a bat torque drill. I did say it a hands drill, all about cleaning the path up.

 

[julray]

Agreed
@Buttermaker is proposing a passive back leg and you've been asking , "Why not use both? " and that is a good question.
More is more, "Why not use both legs?" God gave most of us two and he'd be disappointed if we favored one over the other or didn't use them to their full advantage.

So why do you keep posting one legged dead lifts and one legged squats? And when I say use both.. I am talking about leverage from launch, which I have mentioned over and over again. With that being said.. I believe both legs provide power, I believe in hip extension.. I just don't see rear leg as being magical(main driver) like some do

 

[Buttermaker]

Agreed
@Buttermaker is proposing a passive back leg and you've been asking , "Why not use both? " and that is a good question.
More is more, "Why not use both legs?" God gave most of us two and he'd be disappointed if we favored one over the other or didn't use them to their full advantage.

You are cross pollinating pretty much every post out there. Of course, you use both legs. If the rear leg is passive it's still being used for support.

 

[julray]

Talk about mass confusion.. holy crap

 

[Bobby Shirer]

Nice video of slow motion full swing rather than a bunch of stills or starting were it convenient to think one is showing their opinion. They should have named it “Barry Bonds Foul Ball Swing” .

Load: Put your cursor at the front of the cap bill at the beginning. Leave the cursor there for the full swing.

Foot plant: Put your cursor at back hip at .28 as the stride foot is about to plant. Leave cursor there for the rest of the swing.

What do we see then?

What do you see?

 

[Bobby Shirer]

I could see how that sentence could mean take the slack out of the rear leg. If the rear leg turns with the pelvis there is no slack removal.

More cross pollinating....
Why remove slack from the rear leg?

 

[Bobby Shirer]

His hand position seems more conducive to torque creating and rear wrist supination.