Teaching the high level pattern

[Work=wins]

No, no, no. Your just blind. You have a belief system, which usually sounds like gibberish, and therefor leaves one blind to the truth.

I’ve heard stories like people learning there’s trees and flowers they never seen in places. They were blind, until an experience restored their sight.

Ok Shawn.

 

[Eric F]

This looks like a typical bat lag position to meView attachment 25605

The HLP is not a new way to swing. It's an attempt to identify, distill, and communicate the components that are common in the swings of elite hitters - a new approach to a familiar-looking result.

 

[Eric F]

No no no Eric. He’s tilted more bc he’s little and the pitch is a bit higher relative to him. Plus there’s movement. Deeper contact. So later committal. These to guys seem to use different approaches. One looks up and adjusts down the other looks down and adjusts up. Torso tilt is dictated by timing and pitch location NOT mechanics. You see mostly steep negative torso tilt during an inside/high fastball where a guy needs space quickly. Sometimes on a high pitch adjustment as well. I think approach shapes things. Adjustments from there give different looking results. Tilt is so variable in pro swings.

Once the front foot gets down adjustments can be made. Torso Tilt is on that list. Which is organic. It’s a space/depth maker. But most importantly it sets the swing plane for the pitch also organically. You will always see the hip line rise or lower due to pitch location. It’s also organic mainly bc the launch is from the middle of the body which starts the swing. Always look for the bb to turn/delay/down/up. All depends where it was to start. The hips will adjust accordingly. From the core but also the knees.

The core work in the 2 vids is undeniably obvious. Bergman is a bit early w his contraction. Altuve is a bit later after foot down.

This stuff isn’t half as hard as you guys make it out to be. Nothing manufactured. All organic. Due to what pitch they got from what they were looking for.

You and I don't agree on a lot of things about swing mechanics, and that's not likely to change for either of us.

 

[Work=wins]

@Shawn

Try to piece this together. Centripetal to centrifugal. I didn’t make it up in my basement. I promise.

 

[Eric F]

@Shawn

Try to piece this together. Centripetal to centrifugal. I didn’t make it up in my basement. I promise.

What does this have to do with how Mike teaches the HLP to his students?

 

[Work=wins]

What does this have to do with how Mike teaches the HLP to his students?

How barrel path is cultivated. Either artificially or organically.

 

[Shawn]

@Shawn

Try to piece this together. Centripetal to centrifugal. I didn’t make it up in my basement. I promise.

I’ll look at it later. Golf isn’t similar to FP. In golf you funnel everything down into a ball that doesn’t move. They call it cracking the whip. The use of the hands/arms is very different.

In a HLP, the barrel is released as you TTB (or what people would call release). The release covers an area you believe the ball will be at and when.

Simply a Nike swoosh.

 

[Work=wins]

I’ll look at it later. Golf isn’t similar to FP. In golf you funnel everything down into a ball that doesn’t move. They call it cracking the whip. The use of the hands/arms is very different.

In a HLP, the barrel is released as you TTB (or what people would call release). The release covers an area you believe the ball will be at and when.

Simply a Nike swoosh.

All swings are centripetal to centrifugal. Golf is tee ball. Same power source and launch from the middle while keeping the barrel up.

He explains it. You can dump and spin. Or you can shallow from forces due to transition and get on plane. Same thing I’m preaching.

 

[Shawn]

How barrel path is cultivated. Either artificially or organically.

Nothing is organic with kids. I have tried, they don’t figure things out by themselves. Although everyone thinks they know how to teach the swing. Kids get told by to many people how to hit.

It’s sad.

 

[_MIA_]

Nothing is organic with kids. I have tried, they don’t figure things out by themselves.

Not saying instruction is bad (obviously since I work with my DD) but there were good hitters before hitting lessons became a thing..