There's not that many, will unless you count switch hitters, I guess that's different
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There's not that many, will unless you count switch hitters, I guess that's different
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Maybe we can use your question/quote from the other thread to answer it here, and maybe make a little suggestion...
So I'm more in the 60/40 (rear to front foot weighting) moving into the 50/50 range of pressure as the weight it being transferred into the launch of the swing.
In your swings above (and your previous ones), you appear to lean back, and then come forward, almost falling/plopping into a 50/50 weight distribution as you're launching/swinging.
If/when I had a student doing that, I'd have them either start with a lower leg lift (ala Griffey Jr.), or if they really had to have a big leg lift, have them come down with it first before or as they're moving it forward (ala Donaldson).
Notice with both of them, just before they put their front foot down, it's coming forward (gliding) just a few inches off the ground before being set down.
This IMO, allows for the head to remain more level throughout the move out, instead of basically staying at one height coming forward, and then suddenly lowering at the last second as the elevated foot/leg comes down at the last second into the swing.
Don't know if you see or feel the difference in what I'm seeing in your weight transfer/shift (ie. front foot pressure) into the swing compared to what I'm attempting to say and show with the two above movements...where they're coming down to toe touch roughly 60/40, and then continue to transfer their weight to 50/50 as they begin to launch their swings into contact.
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Ironic, when I mentioned my sequence wasn't great I was actually referring to me getting to toe touch(60/40) and then heel plant and still shifting my weight forward during launch forward getting to 50/50. That's what I see here;
As you probably know and many others I am a big advocate of landing 50/50(based on watching the pros swing) and then launch... however ... putting that theory into practice does not feel comfortable or natural for me and my path ends up being steep. I prefer to land 60/40 and have some shift in my swing. In these swings I feel there is too much shift in my swing, but having some feels good to me. Regardless in these swings I was not thinking about sequence, hands, legs etc. In these swings it's all about powering the swing with my core(my definition of core includes glutes, hips, obliques etc). It felt good and effortless.
I agree I am leaning back too much, old habit. I am going to simplify and try to Griffey approach, try to keep my head between my feet. I'll try that in my next swings.
As you probably know and many others I am a big advocate of landing 50/50(based on watching the pros swing) and then launch... however ... putting that theory into practice does not feel comfortable or natural for me and my path ends up being steep. I prefer to land 60/40 and have some shift in my swing. In these swings I feel there is too much shift in my swing, but having some feels good to me. Regardless in these swings I was not thinking about sequence, hands, legs etc. In these swings it's all about powering the swing with my core(my definition of core includes glutes, hips, obliques etc). It felt good and effortless.
I agree I am leaning back too much, old habit. I am going to simplify and try to Griffey approach, try to keep my head between my feet. I'll try that in my next swings.
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The only reason I say "60/40 transitioning into 50/50 with the swing/launch", is because I feel it allows for some correction/adjustment when you suddenly find yourself on the wrong end of an OS pitch that you weren't necessarily expecting.
Even though Barry has his foot down on both swings, I see him being more 60/40 (could be 55/45, but not yet 50/50) on the on them, and then going 50/50 as he launches the swings.
If not, he wouldn't have remained "back" in the second swing, and we would have seen the more typical, "out on the front foot" swing that we see so many young hitters doing when trying to hit the OS pitch much of the time. Again, JMO, OMMV.
Even though Barry has his foot down on both swings, I see him being more 60/40 (could be 55/45, but not yet 50/50) on the on them, and then going 50/50 as he launches the swings.
If not, he wouldn't have remained "back" in the second swing, and we would have seen the more typical, "out on the front foot" swing that we see so many young hitters doing when trying to hit the OS pitch much of the time. Again, JMO, OMMV.
I think there is some confusion regarding what some people believe is shifting and when. In the gif below, do you consider the hitter 50/50 throughout the clip?
I do not. I consider this hitter to be more back than forward. You could say 60/40, 55/45, or any other combination you want to use. Without having pressure plates beneath his feet, there would be no way to know for sure. As he launches, the shift continues to his front side. Pressure is coming off of his rear foot and increasing at his front foot. However, by the start of this clip, the majority of his mass has already completed it's movement to the pitcher. Once he begins to swing, his mass is steady/balanced/no longer moving towards the pitcher.
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I’m making an effort to understand here and I appreciate your explanation. However this is why it gets confusing. You said when launching weight still shifting forward, but when beginning to swing the weight is no longer shifting towards the pitcher. Not nitpicking FP, but isn’t this a contradiction or am I misunderstanding?I think there is some confusion regarding what some people believe is shifting and when. In the gif below, do you consider the hitter 50/50 throughout the clip?
I do not. I consider this hitter to be more back than forward. You could say 60/40, 55/45, or any other combination you want to use. Without having pressure plates beneath his feet, there would be no way to know for sure. As he launches, the shift continues to his front side. However, by the start of this clip, the majority of his mass has already completed it's movement to the pitcher. Once he begins to swing, his mass is steady/balanced/no longer moving towards the pitcher.
Depends what you are looking at. I am trying to be as clear as possible. In the gif I posted do you see how the pressure beneath his feet changes?
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It is confusing because people are using the word weight incorrectly (although @FP26 didn’t do that here) like I have said 300 times on here..NOBODIES WEIGHT IS SHIFTING DURING A SWING JUST LIKE THE LENGTH OF ONE’S NOSE DOES NOT SHIFT.
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