USSSA Team Classifications

[Ksphenom]

So I've watched a couple scenarios play out.
Some of these are by State.

The USSSA director for TX.. I've looked at a team that won like 100% of the 38 or 43 games in "B" and had 50 % win percentage in "A" games played and hadn't been moved to "A".

That tells me that the TX Director wants a TX team to win TX State Tournaments and possibly bring home a National Championship in "B".


Other State directors seem to move any team winning a tournament to "A".
So depending on the team pool size for a respective area that could be good or bad.

Every classification should have a number one team that is the best in C,B. In bigger markets moving teams is a good thing. Trying to do that in limited markets could essentially end a teams season as previously mentioned. Not all teams can travel out of state looking for competition every weekend. Fund limited.



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[badmonkey]

IMO there should not be C level tournaments. Make all the C level teams play B. Bump the top 25% of the B teams up to A.

I am honestly not sure we so many people play USSSA tournaments. USSSA has such short time limits that I refuse to play any of their tournaments. Elite Select is a little different.

Your solution fixes absolutely nothing. There should absolutely be C tournaments. Something needs to be done about sandbagging, but that doesn’t mean taking away classifications because the teams don’t register where they should.

In Kansas I heard they are going to make everyone register B, and if you want to play C you have to petition to have your team reclassified. Depending on your rosters experience, they may or may not reclassify.

 

[Cougars]

Your solution fixes absolutely nothing. There should absolutely be C tournaments. Something needs to be done about sandbagging, but that doesn’t mean taking away classifications because the teams don’t register where they should.

In Kansas I heard they are going to make everyone register B, and if you want to play C you have to petition to have your team reclassified. Depending on your rosters experience, they may or may not reclassify.

that is how Illinois works. You register as B and then need to email the state director and he looks at roster and can move to C. That said, I have no idea how often teams are told they must stay B?

 

[Vertigo]

that is how Illinois works. You register as B and then need to email the state director and he looks at roster and can move to C. That said, I have no idea how often teams are told they must stay B?

This is how it was done in PA as well. When I had a rec all star team that became a first-year 14U team after Little League was done I reached out to the director and was able to get placed in C. Once we won 2 tourneys at that level we bumped up to B.

 

[joe720]

In the NE most tournaments are OPENs so doesn't really matter what you are registered as. To be honest i am not even sure why they bother with the A/B/C designations. DD plays on a B team. We beat A teams. It's just a letter with no meaning when it comes to USSSA. I guess i can see reason for Nationals but besides that it's pretty meaningless.

 

[_MIA_]

In the NE most tournaments are OPENs so doesn't really matter what you are registered as.

There are few USSSA tournaments around here that have A or B designations (OKC challenge being the best) but in general that is how it is here in OK. The state tournaments have A or B but typically there are barely enough teams to make the A worth playing. There are some C tournaments.

 

[bmakj]

In Kansas I heard they are going to make everyone register B, and if you want to play C you have to petition to have your team reclassified. Depending on your rosters experience, they may or may not reclassify.

NJ is same, you register as B, and have to petition/appeal for C. and you must have at least I believe 11 on the roster as well (so no taking a group of 7 or 8 and bring in studs as GP). and I did see one team this spring get told they could no longer play C because of # of tourneys they won, but they appealed and won to play a C Nationals.

 

[EmToTheDee]

I guess I get this at 12U and 10U, but once you reach 14U, if you aren’t playing A level, why are you wasting your time and money?

I've never ever understood this type of attitude... Sports are a wonderful place for all kids to learn valuable life skills. So why should we restrict sports to only the "best" and most "talented" kids. If a kid loves playing softball, then encourage them to do so. Even if they have zero to no chance of making a college team or their high school team.

 

[Vertigo]

The levels do matter, IMHO as C level tourneys are ran differently - at least they were when we played in them 4 years ago. There are usually only 2 pool play games vs 3 as it is not expected that C level teams have the pitching depth that a B or A level team would have.

 

[bmakj]

The levels do matter, IMHO as C level tourneys are ran differently - at least they were when we played in them 4 years ago. There are usually only 2 pool play games vs 3 as it is not expected that C level teams have the pitching depth that a B or A level team would have.

this has been my experience as well. not something I like. how are you going to develop girls and get better playing less?