Absolutely, it's very clear. The guy on the right looks so smooth as well, guy on the left looks choppy.... The guy on the right does drop his hands for a moment before turning the barrel though
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Absolutely, it's very clear. The guy on the right looks so smooth as well, guy on the left looks choppy.... The guy on the right does drop his hands for a moment before turning the barrel though
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Which brings us back to my original post in this thread that so much posted here was the thoughts of others throughout these years. A progression/regression if you will. What has been done in the past just shows up with new lingo.
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Nature of the beast. Same as business. Read Napolean Hill's Think and Grow Rich. Talk to veterans of big business and how the same ideas are recycled every few years and presented as trail blazing concepts.
The issue is how to separate the crap from the stuff that works.
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Slow motion video can sometimes be deceiving. If that gif was in full speed I suspect you would see the barrel instantly start to blur. That is a good indication that the barrel is being turned. If the bottom hand was pulling the barrel towards the ball the blur would show up later....
One blurs instantly, one doesn't........I love this gif on so many different levels...... Whoever made it, Thanks!
Ummm .... no, the bottom hand pulls and sends the barrel into its rearward arc .... just as Donny explained.
The bottom hand is pulling on the barrel on the swing on the right. The swing on the left has the wrong type of pulling action ... not good.
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Yes, very clear ... the blur takes place during the lateral tilt ... which has the leadarm/bottom-hand pulling on the handle.
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We both know he is swiveling, turning his barrel, lead arm is pronating. Not wasting another hour talking about an oarlock...........There are good pulls and bad pulls?
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Yes, the lead-arm initially pronates .... as it pulls. And yes, that lead-arm pulling action will send the barrel into its arc ... forcefully. And yes, the rear-arm needs to allow for a pivoting action.
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Yes, very clear ... the blur takes place during the lateral tilt ... which has the leadarm/bottom-hand pulling on the handle.
Lead forearm pronating causes the blur along with rear forearm supinating. Yes, the bottom hand pulls the knob straight up.
Yes, very clear ... the blur takes place during the lateral tilt ... which has the leadarm/bottom-hand pulling on the handle.
I'm curious what you think the role of the front side scap is during this action? (hitter's left side in this gif)
Obviously I don't have the knowledge to participate in this debate, LOL.. However in interest of instructing my DD the proper way to rotate the barrel I need clarification. I am not seeing the bottom hand pulling the barrel straight up. Looks to me like the knob is on a downward and forward path, not upward and forward. I'm just basing this on what I see in the gif, not knowledge of what supposed to happen.
Same thing here if I look at Donaldson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVWRXll0_X0
Same as Batista
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm7GFYVubSE
and Pujois
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVZNFaFOQU4
What I don't understand is how they get that rearward arc to occur so deep when pulling the knob forward
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