Swing Plane and upright position at contact

[Shawn]

I disagree that the only way to look at this is to turn the barrel sooner. What I see is still some "loading" of the upperbody, stopping, and then swing (restarting). So the swing isn't a continues action, a true changing the direction of the knob.

What we want is a change of direction, The so called loading action to be always pulling back, fly fishing, and then a reversal of the knob.

On a side note Jack Mankin was the first to say the body would support the goal of the upperbody (THT or arcing the barrel rearward first). He said the body would attain the goal of the upperbody.

I look at it a little different. but would agree that you have to look at the goal which is transfer energy into the bat.

The hands should feel like their moving back or the scap is being pinched and then the lower body starts and yanks the hands forward. The hands themselves don't have to move to create the feeling. This should create a sling shot effect, torsion in the spring.

 

[Buttermaker]

Yet the lower body has yet to adapt .... suggesting that either the goal is not correct yet, or the logic of the lower body adapting is not correct.

yeah julray why hasn't her swing improved more drastically in 2 days? What gives?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

yeah julray why hasn't her swing improved more drastically in 2 days? What gives?

The question should be why the lower body didn't respond more favorably to the new goals?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

This is what needs to be worked on 'tighten up' There should be no 'slop', re-adjustment, lowering of the hands ect....before goooooooo:

Turn the barrel right nowwwwwww......

This was good input IMO.

The hitter likely doesn't understand all the slop they have in their system. Still trying to engage initial movement of the barrel with a upper body forward shove ... albeit on a smaller scale than earlier. What doesn't seem to be understood at this point is the use of the core and lateral tilting process in obtaining this action.

 

[Spartans21]

This was good input IMO.

The hitter likely doesn't understand all the slop they have in their system. Still trying to engage initial movement of the barrel with a upper body forward shove ... albeit on a smaller scale than earlier. What doesn't seem to be understood at this point is the use of the core and lateral tilting process in obtaining this action.

Bingo! Good post......

 

[_MIA_]

Bingo! Good post......

On the first page I suggested to julray that she could perhaps use the command drill although I didn't call it that. After the last couple of posts regarding removing "slop" this may be worth revisiting. FYI
when I explained to my daughter what we were trying to do when I had her do this drill she didn't appreciate me calling it slop..

 

[Spartans21]

On the first page I suggested to julray that she could perhaps use the command drill although I didn't call it that. After the last couple of posts regarding removing "slop" this may be worth revisiting. FYI
when I explained to my daughter what we were trying to do when I had her do this drill she didn't appreciate me calling it slop..

Lol yeah slop sounds kind of harsh!

I especially like the lateral tilt comment......It took me awhile to understand it's significance, and its huge

 

[tjintx]

Lol yeah slop sounds kind of harsh!

I especially like the lateral tilt comment......It took me awhile to understand it's significance, and its huge

Great! Agreement..... Where should, shouldn't that tilt originate?
IE, the tilt 'should' include the pelvis(engaged) from the hip joint up through the torso. the core is mandatory for this to happen.
the tilt 'shouldn't' be above the pelvis(disengaged) leaning forward(hunching) with the spine. The core is bypassed this way or short circuited this way.
On a side note, the lower back shouldn't consist of an arching at the lower back as a means of feeling engaged that doesn't include the pelvis....This is also a short circuiting and a bottoming out feeling that is an inferior movement when the pelvis is not engaged.... Just some thoughts.....

 

[Spartans21]

Great! Agreement..... Where should, shouldn't that tilt originate?
IE, the tilt 'should' include the pelvis(engaged) from the hip joint up through the torso. the core is mandatory for this to happen.
the tilt 'shouldn't' be above the pelvis(disengaged) leaning forward(hunching) with the spine. The core is bypassed this way or short circuited this way.
On a side note, the lower back shouldn't consist of an arching at the lower back as a means of feeling engaged that doesn't include the pelvis....This is also a short circuiting and a bottoming out feeling that is an inferior movement when the pelvis is not engaged.... Just some thoughts.....

Rear hip socket....

 

[Cannonball]

As I said before, the two areas I focus on the most are the knob getting pointed at the ball to deliver the barrel and the hip action. BOTH!