Am I right or wrong here?

[Snotbubbles]

Wow-Wow-Wow!

Who in their right mind thinks they have 8 pitchers (9 including the young snotbubble)?
Lace up your running shoes as you really need to find some competition and a good fit for
your kid's growth and development. She is 10U, it is hard at this age to determine what
she will be like in 4-5 years but you need to find an organization that will allow it to happen-
good luck and please let us know what the HC says in your meeting

UPDATE: Met with entire coaching staff. HC says this year PONY States is an 8GG. Also brought up Nationals where he had a team play 6 games in one day in the loser's bracket. In order to win those tournaments he wants to have more pitchers in his pocket in case we may need them to get us through. For Fall league and scrimmages he wanted to put in pitchers that the other teams could hit so that our fielders are prepared for games when our better pitchers get hit.

HC has agreed to let our better pitchers start throwing BP at our Thursday hitting practices so that they can get work against live hitters but cautioned that if they aren't throwing strikes more than every other pitch it becomes counter-productive. We'll see how that works out.

 

[MNDad]

UPDATE: Met with entire coaching staff. HC says this year PONY States is an 8GG. Also brought up Nationals where he had a team play 6 games in one day in the loser's bracket. In order to win those tournaments he wants to have more pitchers in his pocket in case we may need them to get us through. For Fall league and scrimmages he wanted to put in pitchers that the other teams could hit so that our fielders are prepared for games when our better pitchers get hit.

HC has agreed to let our better pitchers start throwing BP at our Thursday hitting practices so that they can get work against live hitters but cautioned that if they aren't throwing strikes more than every other pitch it becomes counter-productive. We'll see how that works out.

Sounds like the talk went well, Good to hear.

Throwing live BP is great as long as the pitchers goal is to still get the hitters out. It’s dangerous if he wants the ball down the middle so batters can hit it.

 

[Coach JV]

Met with entire coaching staff. HC says this year PONY States is an 8GG. Also brought up Nationals where he had a team play 6 games in one day in the loser's bracket. In order to win those tournaments he wants to have more pitchers in his pocket in case we may need them to get us through. For Fall league and scrimmages he wanted to put in pitchers that the other teams could hit so that our fielders are prepared for games when our better pitchers get hit.

Don't put away the running shoes just yet. I admire the loyalty you show to the team, but the red flag is still on the pole.

At 10U coaches hope they can throw strikes, if they do-pitchers can mow down teams.

Don't listen to the 6 games in loser bracket stuff. At a 16U tourney, we had a pitcher go down with injury, my #1
stepped up and threw 5 straight games to make it to the finals thru the loser bracket. I stand by my original advice:
Find a team whose coach has his head extracted from his posterior.

 

[djcarter1966]

UPDATE: Met with entire coaching staff. HC says this year PONY States is an 8GG. Also brought up Nationals where he had a team play 6 games in one day in the loser's bracket. In order to win those tournaments he wants to have more pitchers in his pocket in case we may need them to get us through. For Fall league and scrimmages he wanted to put in pitchers that the other teams could hit so that our fielders are prepared for games when our better pitchers get hit.

HC has agreed to let our better pitchers start throwing BP at our Thursday hitting practices so that they can get work against live hitters but cautioned that if they aren't throwing strikes more than every other pitch it becomes counter-productive. We'll see how that works out.

What the coach needs to do is watch BP carefully if each girl is getting say 10 pitches and maybe everyone gets two rounds through, I am OK with basically having the pitcher use the first 7 pitches as an at bat you can even keep track of balls and strikes (should throw more strikes than balls but everything should be around the plate and river basically within 29 inch zone) then saying "last three" and the pitcher throws the ball over the plate not the corners..reason being at 10U with a big lead I should be able to tell you to throw meatballs to the 7,8 and 9 hitters who are each 0 for 3 for the game (so I'm not walking them and turning the lineup over)...over the plate is a spot too since you should avoid it most of the time you should be able to hit it when needed too. After one time through switch to the #2 pitcher and catcher same routine.

The coach should not be asking the pitcher to throw 10 meatballs because that becomes counter-productive!!

 

[Snotbubbles]

Don't put away the running shoes just yet. I admire the loyalty you show to the team, but the red flag is still on the pole.

At 10U coaches hope they can throw strikes, if they do-pitchers can mow down teams.

Don't listen to the 6 games in loser bracket stuff. At a 16U tourney, we had a pitcher go down with injury, my #1
stepped up and threw 5 straight games to make it to the finals thru the loser bracket. I stand by my original advice:
Find a team whose coach has his head extracted from his posterior.

At 10u (or ever for that matter) I don't want my DD throwing 5 games in a weekend. I just want her to get some periodic work against live hitting in so when we hit the tournaments in the Spring it isn't the first time in 6 months that she's facing that kind of pressure.

 

[marriard]

UPDATE: Met with entire coaching staff. HC says this year PONY States is an 8GG. Also brought up Nationals where he had a team play 6 games in one day in the loser's bracket. In order to win those tournaments he wants to have more pitchers in his pocket in case we may need them to get us through. For Fall league and scrimmages he wanted to put in pitchers that the other teams could hit so that our fielders are prepared for games when our better pitchers get hit.

HC has agreed to let our better pitchers start throwing BP at our Thursday hitting practices so that they can get work against live hitters but cautioned that if they aren't throwing strikes more than every other pitch it becomes counter-productive. We'll see how that works out.

Absolutely none of this makes any sense to me....

You say they have agreed to have their 'best pitchers' who actually don't pitch in games throw some live pitching for batting practice but are worried they wont be able to throw 50% strikes in a batting practice situation???????

If they can't throw 50% strikes in BP then they are not really game ready and need circle time in games Right? Even in 10U 50% doesn't cut it if you expect to win a lot.

And how bad are the other pitchers they are using if they are not even that good?

And how are they worried about a 6 game day or a 8GG if their best pitchers (who they aren't using?) can't be relied on to throw enough strikes to win regularly?

Is there something I am missing in all this? It makes no sense in any way to me.

 

[JAD]

DD 3 was once on a rec team with 7 pitchers, most of whom were less than thrilled about their circle time. Several of the girls, including the HC's DD, were already pitching for a TB team the coaches also ran. Interesting that the girl who got the most circle time was NOT the HC's DD.

By now all the girls are in HS, and are spread out among various teams. Most of the pitchers on that team still pitch, which is rare. A few months later DD 3 was on a TB team with 4 or 5 pitchers, and DD 3 is the only one who still pitches.

Kudos to the HC for realizing that pitching his DD in a REC league was not going to benefit anyone. I know it varies from region to region, but when my DD started TB we never considered playing REC ball again.

 

[Rocketech1]

At the end of the day, the primary goal of the team is not to develop 8 pitchers; it's up to the individual pitcher to develop themselves. This is NOT a travel ball team by anyone's definition. If my DD worked her tail off to get to the point where she was very good pitcher and could strikeout many players and the HC says "I'm not going to pitch her because we need weak pitchers to throw slow, meatballs over the plate so our defense can get a lot of work fielding" would be the last time DD played for this coach. Let me say it again, this not a travel ball team. Your DD needs to play on a competitive team otherwise she is wasting her time.

 

[SoftSocDad]

I agree with Marriard. This makes no sense. But if your DD is the best pitcher around, you should take the 3 best hitters and go form your own team. A coach who takes 8 pitchers doesn't know what he's doing. That's a 10u rec all-star team, where everyone is a pitcher and shortstop.

 

[JAD]

Every baseball team out there.

Little league baseball is a different in that they have stringent rules about pitch counts and innings. A baseball team had better have at least 5 pitchers or they may not make it through a weekend tournament.