Unfortunately, you'd still have the vast majority of pitching coaches saying "That's wrong"...
And that is what makes them FOOLS!
Unfortunately, you'd still have the vast majority of pitching coaches saying "That's wrong"...
How often do you see coaches having girls throwing before warming up? How often do you see coaches using static stretches before any other activity?
ONE pitch using a bowling/HE/wrist flip vs one using an I/R whip is enough to tell anyone with a brain which is right and which is wrong.
Conceptually, it doesn't make sense to say "IR includes the whip", mainly because the whip can function OK without IR.
The question came up was how a pitcher could pitch "well" without IR. I thought it was pretty simple...the kid didn't use IR. I.e., the upper arm and the forearm didn't rotate. A pitcher can achieve probably 80% to 90% of her top speed without IR. (Yes, 10% to 20% missing is a significant drop in speed.)
Somehow, BM's simple straightforward definition of IR has been broadened to include the whip and the "stretch". Conceptually, it doesn't make sense to say "IR includes the whip", mainly because the whip can function OK without IR.
This is a perfect example of the confusion. A pitcher "pushing the ball" around the circle rather than pulling the ball around the circle has nothing to do with IR. It is possible to push the ball around the circled and use IR. It is possible to pull the ball around the circle, have a whip, and not use IR.