What are you doing to fix DBSF

[Buttermaker]

RD - just trying to stick to generally accepted terms as set forth over at BBD.

The gather does lead into coil, so in a sense gather is part of the coil. But, in terms of timing - gather is before release and coil should be at and after release.

 

[rdbass]

RD - just trying to stick to generally accepted terms as set forth over at BBD.

Butter, I know the terms over at BBD but, not everyone is a member of BBD or any other site. I was just trying to fill in the missing pieces of the puzzle for some.

 

[Buttermaker]

So, maybe it's time to get everyone up to speed.

 

[pacman]

So is DBSF a product of a hitter being out of sequence or is it just a hitter that is too "handsy" and trying to level to the path of the ball instead of creating tilt?

 

[dominik]

I don't really believe into "get the sequence right and everything will fall in place".

yes it is true that a good base is important and getting the legs, hips and spine working right is important and minimizes the potential for error but still Hand path and Barrel path Needs to be taught. MLB Players spend plenty of time working on their Hand path and Barrel path (stay inside...). a top down swing is bad of course and the correct sequence is really important but the right Hand and even arm and shoulder Actions (yeah I know that is considered evil) are important too and don't teach themselves.

 

[CoogansBluff]

Like what noon time and others have said about the importance of 'gather.' Does anyone have drills that they use to emphasize that? If I understand it, the concept of 'gather' is that your hands go up/back as you go forward, not as you unweight your front foot.

 

[Ken B]

I don't really believe into "get the sequence right and everything will fall in place".

Having a hard time getting my head around this.... I think I get what you're after, but the initial statement got me hung up. I think my confusion reflects where I am in the early stages of hitting education. Sequence is the baseline, followed by how to use it in practical situations. I'm not there yet....

 

[Greenmonsters]

I don't really believe into "get the sequence right and everything will fall in place".

yes it is true that a good base is important and getting the legs, hips and spine working right is important and minimizes the potential for error but still Hand path and Barrel path Needs to be taught. MLB Players spend plenty of time working on their Hand path and Barrel path (stay inside...). a top down swing is bad of course and the correct sequence is really important but the right Hand and even arm and shoulder Actions (yeah I know that is considered evil) are important too and don't teach themselves.

IMO, if you have the sequence down its exponentially easier to subsequently refine hand path than vice versa

 

[chrispots]

I'm going to disagree with everyone...

From my experience (which is plenty with DD2) this is NOT a sequence problem.

I can stand on one leg - either front or back leg - sit on a bucket - stand on my tip toes whatever and NOT DBSF when I swing.

I can go all back - all forward in my swing and not DBSF.

Getting them to feel top hand pressure perpendicular to the barrel will solve the problem...

This is NOT easy to teach...

What I have done is stand behind DD2 with my hand loosely around her barrel...I say "go" and she start her swing and I keep the barrel from dropping and she can feel the "grab" in her bicep and the perpendicular pressure in her top hand.

The hands NEED to be trained...no offense to the posters in this thread who I have great respect for...but I don't see how a better sequence solves this problem...CP

 

[pacman]

I have a hitter that can go 100 out of 100 on the tee without DBSF but as soon as the ball it pitched it shows up everytime. I somwhat feel the sequence is an issue for two reasons.. the hands start too early or the coiling starts during the gather it gets out of wack. Or its just their bodys muscle memory to dump to match the plane of the ball. Im not sure what exactly it is but it is frustrating.. and i have a older experienced hitter that shows flashes of tremendous power.