Throwing to second from knees.....
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Greenmonsters
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The DVD won't dissapoint. Ingrain the conventional throwing technique first, then try it from the knees if you must! Frankly, I don't think its faster and I think you sacrifice some of your receiving and blocking ability, but YMMV.
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Ok, check 1:41 and 3:00 mark. You will see the completed throwing motion and with this rotation you can throw without damaging your shoulder IMO. Your blocking ability remains unchanged. I am still on the fence though. BTW, that hand behind the glove NECC wants, is not what the D1 coach wanted to see dd do. She was there catching for a pitcher during practice and he corrected her immediately. Told her to get her hand back. Thumb inside of fist didn't matter, he never wants it up there unless blocking.
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Greenmonsters
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The throwing motion in the video looks better than most, but I still have concern about the arm stress. Without debating which is faster, if you can get to a sub 1.8 pop time without sacrificing your blocking and receiving ability conventionally, why is there a need to throw from the knees?
IMO, the greater the stagger, the more difficult it is to complete a good block to the left, the forward foot for a RH catcher.
Re the throwing hand - different coaches have different opinions so who's right? Most coaches, including D1 SB and BB, know very little about catching. IME and NECC's opinion, the time its going to get hit is when its moving from where its hidden into block or throwing position. Ask Cervelli how that worked out for him this season.
And for the record, the videos I've seen of Jen Schro's workouts are excellent and better than 99% of the training most catchers get. I just think there need to be a few technique tweaks.
For those that claim it's faster and more accurate, I meant video showing that it was. In other words, same kid doing both ways.
Fastest most efficient way to catch and throw, without injury, is what I am looking for. Some people are quick on their feet, some aren't. I am curious if this would be the better style for slower catchers... It seems like the follow through motion she is teaching here would put no more stress on the shoulder than a regular throw. I have had dd try this, exaggerating the follow through and she is faster than her normal throw. Then again she doesn't do what she should fundamentally and that is costing her on speed. When I get the NECC video, I think we will work on both and let her and the clock choose. This past season a HS catcher picked a girl off at 2nd from her knees. Yes, I agree that is poor base running but still, she nailed a girl on second from her knees because she got off a little too far. Whichever is the most efficient is what we will end up with, as long as there are no shoulder issues.
Oh, I got ya. I would like to see that too, clocks, same baserunner, same lead, and same pitch location.
As with any way taught, there are anecdotal stories that go against that particular way. Since this is a game of numbers, I feel it's best to teach the best way to get most of the situations covered most of the time. You can't get all of them all of the time. There is always that one exception, so I'll go with the odds.
If you haven't watched the NECC video, I cannot recommend it enough. Coach Dave started a great program with catchers. His son Jay has done a wonderful job taking over. What they teach makes sense. I watch it at least once a month.
If you haven't watched the NECC video, I cannot recommend it enough. Coach Dave started a great program with catchers. His son Jay has done a wonderful job taking over. What they teach makes sense. I watch it at least once a month.
Sport is all about results. As long as you are not breaking the rules, hurting yourself or someone else, players need to do what gets them the best results. I find it refreshing to to see young athletes break convention, or think outside of the box to better their results in whatever they are doing. It shows creativity and determination.
DD threw out 6 of 7 runners from her knees 2 weeks ago, not bad in my book.
DD threw out 6 of 7 runners from her knees 2 weeks ago, not bad in my book.
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DD has thrown out runners both ways. She's supposed to follow the NECC method, but if she's blocked one in the dirt, she's like as not going to just hurl it to second from her knees.
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