Pure barrels or cut!

[julray]

Its too bad when people dont recognize perspectives outside their tunnel!
Recognize those are only searching for anyone to agree with them rather than acknowledge the responses provided.
Thats what limits growth of conversation and athletes!

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Where does this lead?

looks like a like a train going down the tracks, just like this thread, Why are you trying to derail?

 

[Work=wins]

I like Lewis so far...

Legit adjustment. Out front w the upper body. Lateral. Very nice. Looks pushy bc the barrel is brought forward then launched. Text book.

Edit: kid seems legit.

 

[FP26]

Do you have a video of somebody following Trout's.. or any other pro's teaching on "down to" ? Just curious what "down to" means to you in a complete swing, a game swing, not a demo swing.

This is what it means to me

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Here's Trout doing what he's demoing.. the demo is "hands in isolation", but still see his hands doing the same thing when integrated in the entire swing, the barrel(path) behaves differently because of the missing components

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In each of these clips I see TTB. Not necessarily an exaggerated TTB like some people preach. But a TTB that results in getting the top hand palm up early in the swing arc. I'm not discounting your "down to" or "direct to" viewpoint. If that is what you see and it helps with your understanding, great. We see the same clips, see different things, but both like the results. Ultimately its that end result that matters the most.

 

[FP26]

Its too bad when people dont recognize perspectives outside their tunnel!
Recognize those are only searching for anyone to agree with them rather than acknowledge the responses provided.
Thats what limits growth of conversation and athletes!

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Where does this lead?

I'm guessing that your clip is what happens just prior to my clip below...

 

[julray]

Absolutely legit adjustment.. but not a text book swing, what I mean is you wouldn't teach your DD to swing like this off the tee. You would let the ball travel more where you have leverage JMHO

 

[julray]

In each of these clips I see TTB. Not necessarily an exaggerated TTB like some people preach. But a TTB that results in getting the top hand palm up early in the swing arc. I'm not discounting your "down to" or "direct to" viewpoint. If that is what you see and it helps with your understanding, great. We see the same clips, see different things, but both like the results. Ultimately its that end result that matters the most.

I think the most important thing is how you would teach that..

 

[Shawn]

Absolutely legit adjustment.. but not a text book swing, what I mean is you wouldn't teach your DD to swing like this off the tee. You would let the ball travel more where you have leverage JMHO

Having a club for different swings. That’s what I mean.

It’s the same as inside/outing a pitch or hitting the inside part of the ball. It’s an adjustment, a club in your bag of tricks.

 

[Work=wins]

Absolutely legit adjustment.. but not a text book swing, what I mean is you wouldn't teach your DD to swing like this off the tee. You would let the ball travel more where you have leverage JMHO

I believe the best make adjustments out front. I think it’s a text book adjustment. They take the difference in velocity out of off speed pitches by ‘speeding up’ the pitch w their adjustment w their body out front. Backing the ball up as an adjustment for off speed doesn’t work. You can’t catch up to inside heat that way. Gotta move out for fastest pitch FYB and adjust out front to lesser speed pitches. With that being said if you can’t stay back, you can’t adjust out front.


Hitting off a tee to simulate isn’t practical. Front toss from close varying pitches is practical. It’s all a waste of time if the pattern isn’t optimal. Just be a one pitch at a time hitter.

Edit: Jr. is down to for the sake of thread.

 

[julray]

I believe the best make adjustments out front. I think it’s a text book adjustment. They take the difference in velocity out of off speed pitches by ‘speeding’ up the pitch w their adjustment w their body out front. Backing the ball up as an adjustment for off speed doesn’t work. You can’t catch up to inside heat that way. Gotta move out for fastest pitch FYB and adjust out front to lesser speed pitches. With that being said if you can’t stay back, you can’t adjust out front.


Hitting off a tee to simulate isn’t practical. Front toss from close varying pitches is practical. It’s all a waste of time if the pattern isn’t optimal. Just be a one pitch at a time hitter.

Of course you adjust out front,... if your ahead of the pitch you are always going to be out front. However every offspeed pitch is not hit out front like this. The hitter should have the ability to do what the hitter did in this situation, but it's not an idea swing. I can post many videos of hitters hitting off speed pitches with much better timing and a much better contact position. The hitter was fooled, made an adjustment and solid contact.. that's awesome! Not taking anything away from him.

Totally get what you are saying W... just not great timing and the idea contact position IMO, but kudos to the hitter for the excellent adjustment

 

[Work=wins]

Of course you adjust out front,... if your ahead of the pitch you are always going to be out front. However every offspeed pitch is not hit out front like this. The hitter should have the ability to do what the hitter did in this situation, but it's not an idea swing. I can post many videos of hitters hitting off speed pitches with much better timing and a much better contact position. The hitter was fooled, made an adjustment and solid contact.. that's awesome! Not taking anything away from him.

It’s an ideal ADJUSTMENT. Text book adjustment. The pitch wasn’t a strike.

Edit: it’s not a push swing. The core is going before the hands.