new to the board and new to the game. dd started playing her freshman year and at the end of the season she wanted to start pitching. we found a guy to give her lessons. he teaches to open and close and finish with elbow. after reading thru here and after attending doug gillis camp over weekend it looks like were doing stuff different. i know its hard to learn anything in a class in three hours but he had some good info. i guess what im looking for is do we continue where were at because of her age or go to his style and start over. she is a junior this year and she wants to go on and play college. she wants to be the best she can be and she works hard at it. she will practice atleast 2 hours a night 3 or 4 times a week. seems like we hit a stopping point and shes at 52 with her fastball. i talked to one other guy that his daughter pitched in college and said she would top out at 55 best with the style she is being taught. one other question is there any pitchers that pitch old elbow style make it to d-1 level. thank you for your help.