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I have no problem talking hitting....I am not sure I can fulfill your seeing this "hip bump" in a high level swing as I don't know your definition of a high level swing and I will always maintain that any swing that works at D1 or higher should be considered high level even though it may not fit someone's idea....
But, just to satisfy your question....as FFS alluded to - I don't believe you should unload a swing by just uncoiling or rotating...sure I understand that you can - but that doesn't make it the most efficient way to be able to adjust on the fly....
The hip bump is nothing more learning how to shift your middle to create a certain geometry of your body (like the Dixon "vee") that creates a more forward center so you can easily transfer your weight into the swing....your athletic posture plays a huge role in this....meaning that someone who doesn't bend at the knees and hip joint will simply just slide their hips forward....sometimes a little common sense goes a long way with this stuff....
Even as you watch the Casey one knee drill you should be able to see his hip not only "bump" his butt also goes out....maintaining a dynamic balance....
if you want to define this as forward by coiling or lowering your COG - that is fine by me, but I don't agree in just unwinding whatever coil you might have to start the swing...
This shift of the middle with athletic posture (hip bump) is something that will create the scrunch of the lats via a slight lateral tilt and thus create space under your head for the hands to work inside to in or inside to out if need be...
Below you can see the posture needed to achieve what I am talking about in terms of creating space - how many of our youth hitters create this space?
If this hitter simply rotated her hips to start the swing and tried to keep her hands close the rear shoulder - could she have made this adjustment? Maybe...maybe not...
I try to explain things in plainer language as I have to relay this to teenage girls and parents who have little knowledge of the language these hitting boards have created over the years....hence "hip bump" or I might say "throw the hip, throw the barrel" to one of my players....they understand what I am asking of them....
But, just to satisfy your question....as FFS alluded to - I don't believe you should unload a swing by just uncoiling or rotating...sure I understand that you can - but that doesn't make it the most efficient way to be able to adjust on the fly....
The hip bump is nothing more learning how to shift your middle to create a certain geometry of your body (like the Dixon "vee") that creates a more forward center so you can easily transfer your weight into the swing....your athletic posture plays a huge role in this....meaning that someone who doesn't bend at the knees and hip joint will simply just slide their hips forward....sometimes a little common sense goes a long way with this stuff....
Even as you watch the Casey one knee drill you should be able to see his hip not only "bump" his butt also goes out....maintaining a dynamic balance....
if you want to define this as forward by coiling or lowering your COG - that is fine by me, but I don't agree in just unwinding whatever coil you might have to start the swing...
This shift of the middle with athletic posture (hip bump) is something that will create the scrunch of the lats via a slight lateral tilt and thus create space under your head for the hands to work inside to in or inside to out if need be...
Below you can see the posture needed to achieve what I am talking about in terms of creating space - how many of our youth hitters create this space?
If this hitter simply rotated her hips to start the swing and tried to keep her hands close the rear shoulder - could she have made this adjustment? Maybe...maybe not...
I try to explain things in plainer language as I have to relay this to teenage girls and parents who have little knowledge of the language these hitting boards have created over the years....hence "hip bump" or I might say "throw the hip, throw the barrel" to one of my players....they understand what I am asking of them....
If you would like to start another thread sometime on explaining this "hip bump", maybe I would learn something new. I do see it in the fp gifs you posted, but imo they were all less than high level swings, good hitters yes, but not elite swings. If they are the model you like to use, fine, I can live with that.
"Create space for the hands to work". I have to say this makes no sense to me. When I swing, my hands stay close to my back shoulder (at go), my elbow slots, side lat area scrunches, shoulders tilt, all to the level of the pitch. My hands stay in front of my shoulder (in front as shoulders rotate, not "in front" as in closer to my pec), turn the barrel and fire to the ball.
My shoulder laterally tilt independent of what my hips do, and...well...I just don't understand the idea of my hands not having room.
Not trying to get in a pee match, but will admit check mate if you can show me this in a high level swing. AND it very well could be just your words for forward by coil. If you do want to discuss, please show vid not stills, I (or rdb, ffs,noon, etc) can help show vid. Turn me on to the idea, and I will help prove your point. Right now, I just don't see it in a high level swing. If you don't want to get into it, that is fine I promise to leave it alone.
Once again... I am not trying to get into a match...yes I do think some people post crap on here that ultimately leads people the wrong way, and yes I sometimes show vid proof they are wrong (to which they say "just because you see it happen, doesn't mean it is happening"). I like a lot of what you say, but this, I (at this point) don't like so much.
Sorry to distract from this thread (I probably should have pm'ed you, my bad).
Thanks!