This paints the picture of a player who is swinging and making contact with (probably) the first pitch she sees that she think she can hit, but isn't hitting the ball very hard very often. There could possibly be a lack of confidence in being willing to take a strike in order to wait for a pitch in a spot she can hit hard. If she's a good base-runner, I might consider a player like this for the #2 spot, but that would depend a LOT on my other options. More likely, she would be #6 or #9 spot to turn over the lineup.
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This paints the picture of a player who is swinging and making contact with (probably) the first pitch she sees that she think she can hit, but isn't hitting the ball very hard very often. There could possibly be a lack of confidence in being willing to take a strike in order to wait for a pitch in a spot she can hit hard. If she's a good base-runner, I might consider a player like this for the #2 spot, but that would depend a LOT on my other options. More likely, she would be #6 or #9 spot to turn over the lineup.
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Well the overall OBP for the season sets the initial lineup and yes batters rise and fall throughout the weekend. Those that are hitting well move up and those that aren't having a good weekend move down. It works itself out in the end and the cumulative carries over to the next tournament.
I wouldn't make out the lineup much different using my super coach crystal ball from 1989.
You are what your OBP says you are.
OBP paints a tiny part of the picture of who a hitter is.
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That certainly makes it easier to fill out the lineup card..
OPS is a much, much better indicator of performance than OBP.
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We also roll our lineup in pool play sometimes to equal out the AB's (and it's pool play so who cares).
People OBP in groups 2-3, 1-2, etc. so there isn't wild movement in the lineup from game to game. If everybody hits or doesn't hit then there isn't much movement. The girls love it because it's merit based.
The scorekeeper feels some heat occasionally.
We also roll our lineup in pool play sometimes to equal out the AB's (and it's pool play so who cares).
People OBP in groups 2-3, 1-2, etc. so there isn't wild movement in the lineup from game to game. If everybody hits or doesn't hit then there isn't much movement. The girls love it because it's merit based.
The scorekeeper feels some heat occasionally.
From a competitive standpoint, I agree w/ all the criticisms being leveled, including the value of OBA vs. OPS. I wouldn't do this for a school team because I think it could cost you games, and I think the coach is obliged to give his team the best chance in school ball.
However, I'm moved by what you say about 'the girls love it.' If the girls love it, and it's a developmental travel team, then why not? As you say, you're evening out the at-bats in pool play, which gives players opportunities to develop and to move up the ladder. I've often thought that coaches don't look at the game through their players' eyes enough. Maybe this is a good example of seeing it from their perspective.
Somewhat amateur-ish on the analytics here; if you want to measure contribution to your offense is there/ should there be a stat that rolls in base stealing/smart base running? Kind of like a Bases per AB or per PA? I would think runs scored relies too much on the batters behind, or maybe this would too.
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That is what OPS is for
OPS only calculates what you do with the AB, not what you do after you get on base.
