Florida Scores 2 on Bases Loaded Walk

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Jun 22, 2008
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There are 2 reasons it wasnt a violation. On a walk the lookback rule is not in effect until the batter/runner reaches 1st base which she had not on this play, and, the ball being in the circle does not stop play. As long as the runners do not physically stop at a base when the lookback rule is active they may continue to advance.
 
Feb 19, 2012
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Similarly play, but after a hit, not a walk.
The play ended, no time called, runner at 3 went home and scored. Pitcher was not in the mound, no one was paying attention. Runner called out. Reasoning: she was off the base when pitcher had the ball.
Appeal: She went straight home, didn't stop or retreat, and no one knew what happened until she scored.
Appeal denied.
Any way that is the right call?
 
Mar 13, 2010
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Similarly play, but after a hit, not a walk.
The play ended, no time called, runner at 3 went home and scored. Pitcher was not in the mound, no one was paying attention. Runner called out. Reasoning: she was off the base when pitcher had the ball.
Appeal: She went straight home, didn't stop or retreat, and no one knew what happened until she scored.
Appeal denied.
Any way that is the right call?

Might be right. You don't provide enough detail to know for sure.

When you say that "the play ended" do you mean that the runners had at some point briefly stopped advancing? Did the runner actually stop on third base?

When you say "the pitcher wasn't on the mound" do you mean she wasn't inside the pitching circle or that she wasn't standing on the pitcher's plate?
 
Jun 22, 2008
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Similarly play, but after a hit, not a walk.
The play ended, no time called, runner at 3 went home and scored. Pitcher was not in the mound, no one was paying attention. Runner called out. Reasoning: she was off the base when pitcher had the ball.
Appeal: She went straight home, didn't stop or retreat, and no one knew what happened until she scored.
Appeal denied.
Any way that is the right call?

Was pitcher in circle with ball? If so and runner was on base they cannot leave the base.
 
Mar 1, 2013
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Similarly play, but after a hit, not a walk.
The play ended, no time called, runner at 3 went home and scored. Pitcher was not in the mound, no one was paying attention. Runner called out. Reasoning: she was off the base when pitcher had the ball.
Appeal: She went straight home, didn't stop or retreat, and no one knew what happened until she scored.
Appeal denied.
Any way that is the right call?

Not in any fast pitch softball rule set. No rule set using the "look back rule" requires the runner to "be on the base" when the pitcher gets the ball in the circle. All that happens when the pitcher gets the ball in the circle (and the batter-runner has touched first in the case of a walk) is they need to make a decision. If they are off the base, the need to immediately chose a direction and go there. If they are moving, they need to continue the direction they are going or retreat to the previous base. If they are on a base, the must stay there.

Edit: Like BretMan and Comp said, we really need more info. Everything I just stated above assumes that the pitcher didn't have the ball in the circle and the runner never stopped advancing.
 
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Feb 19, 2012
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I don't know if the runner stopped at third, I was watching the pitcher who received the ball near home plate, was not in the circle but was walking back to it, and catcher was not paying attention.
Your questions clarified for me, however, that unless the pitcher was in the circle or time was called, ball is live and runners can advance.
 

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