Dropped 3rd strike

[CoogansBluff]

You can NEVER assume a foul tip should have been caught. It is simply a foul/strike.

You can give an error for a missed foul pop up that should have resulted and out that allows the batter to reach base later in the at bat that could result in unearned run(s).

Agreed.

What I said does not contradict that, but you have stated it much more clearly than I did.

 

[PA SB Dad]

We had an umpire for 2 games yesterday who was wearing a PIAA patch on his shirt (I assumed he had umpiring experience in high school games). He made multiple bad calls on DTS in the 2 games. Afterwards, he came up to me and said he had never umpired a game using the DTS rule!! I'm guessing he umpires primarily slow pitch? His strike zone was pretty high...

 

[JAD]

Okay what about a foul ball? Does that get recorded at all? If so as what?

We played a game the other night and our 3B dropped a "can of corn" foul ball.....since it was a foul ball it was not recorded as an error, but I wanted to at least put an asterisk next to it in the book!

 

[CoogansBluff]

We played a game the other night and our 3B dropped a "can of corn" foul ball.....since it was a foul ball it was not recorded as an error, but I wanted to at least put an asterisk next to it in the book!

This is ironic, JAD. Dropping a foul popup actually IS an error. Third baseman must be charged for that, even if the batter still fails to reach base.

 

[Bucketmom]

I do not have the mental ability to track the whole game. I am just starting to learn how to record stats for the pitchers.
So how would I record that foul ball for the pitcher?

 

[CoogansBluff]

I do not have the mental ability to track the whole game. I am just starting to learn how to record stats for the pitchers.
So how would I record that foul ball for the pitcher?

Are you talking about a foul tip that the catcher failed to catch for a third strike? Pitcher is not credited with a strikeout for that.

 

[Greenmonsters]

A foul ball with 2 strikes doesn't change the count on the batter so you can effectively ignore it (or make a tick mark in the book if your are keeping track of how many pitches each pitcher throws)

 

[Bucketmom]

So would I record the first 2 fouls as strikes for the pitcher?
And I am talking about a ball that is hit and called foul ball by the ump regardless of if the catcher should have caught it.

 

[CoogansBluff]

So would I record the first 2 fouls as strikes for the pitcher?
And I am talking about a ball that is hit and called foul ball by the ump regardless of if the catcher should have caught it.

To the scorekeeper, fouls are always strikes. So if the pitcher throws 10 pitches, and all 10 are fouled off, then the pitcher has thrown 10 pitches and 10 strikes. The count, of course, would be 0-2 (0 balls, 2 strikes). But I assume that you're asking this from the standpoint of someone keeping the book or keeping statistics. There is a stat called strike percentage. That would look like this:

called strikes + swinging strikes (which includes foul balls) + balls put in play / total number of pitches

 

[CoogansBluff]

Here's a college boxscore. If you notice at the bottom, it shows the pitches thrown by the pitcher and the strikes. The strikes that count toward that stat would be called strikes, swinging strikes, foul balls, balls put into play.

Oklahoma vs Tennessee - Softball Division I - June 4, 2013 - NCAA.com