halskinner
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I am going to quote my own response here to a different thread.
"One of the things I had all students do at the first lesson and then once a month;; warm up with both and gun both OH speed and UH speed. I talked with a few o ther instructors who did the same.
We talked about it when we ran intoi each other, tourneys, etc.
The general consensus seemed to point to this; A windmill pitcher could throw underhand within 3mph of what they threw overhand. No official study orecords kept, just professional opinions.
However, we all decided to use that conclusion for all our benefits. If a pitcher had a little experience at all, wer would clock them throwing both UH and OH at full speed. If more than 3mph variance, something wasnt right and a tune up oone or the other mechanics was needed. Or, for some other reason something wasnt right.
Not sure if this helped you at all".
This reminded me of a little thing I did with my new students.
Once they were warmed up for both UH and OH, I would have them throw 5 or 6 at full speed OH and yell out the speeds.
Then I would walk over to them and say, "Just so you know, a study was done by several pitching instructors. What they found out was simple; An underhand pitcher can throw within 3mph just as fast as they can overhand. Now we know what you can do overhand, let's see how you do underhand." Back to the bucket I would go.
It never failed, the first windmill pitch was always 6 or 7 mph slower than the overhand speed was ( NO MATTER WHAT THE GUN ACTUALLY SAID). THEN, I started getting 110% effort from them. By the 6th or 7th UH throw They were getting the real numbers. During those few pitches, war was declared - pitcher vs radar gun.
I fibbed a little and it always worked. Just a little suggestion there.
"One of the things I had all students do at the first lesson and then once a month;; warm up with both and gun both OH speed and UH speed. I talked with a few o ther instructors who did the same.
We talked about it when we ran intoi each other, tourneys, etc.
The general consensus seemed to point to this; A windmill pitcher could throw underhand within 3mph of what they threw overhand. No official study orecords kept, just professional opinions.
However, we all decided to use that conclusion for all our benefits. If a pitcher had a little experience at all, wer would clock them throwing both UH and OH at full speed. If more than 3mph variance, something wasnt right and a tune up oone or the other mechanics was needed. Or, for some other reason something wasnt right.
Not sure if this helped you at all".
This reminded me of a little thing I did with my new students.
Once they were warmed up for both UH and OH, I would have them throw 5 or 6 at full speed OH and yell out the speeds.
Then I would walk over to them and say, "Just so you know, a study was done by several pitching instructors. What they found out was simple; An underhand pitcher can throw within 3mph just as fast as they can overhand. Now we know what you can do overhand, let's see how you do underhand." Back to the bucket I would go.
It never failed, the first windmill pitch was always 6 or 7 mph slower than the overhand speed was ( NO MATTER WHAT THE GUN ACTUALLY SAID). THEN, I started getting 110% effort from them. By the 6th or 7th UH throw They were getting the real numbers. During those few pitches, war was declared - pitcher vs radar gun.
I fibbed a little and it always worked. Just a little suggestion there.