Illegal pitching

Legendsmom · Feb 16, 2017

I was watching the Auburn game with my DD and we noticed that one of their pitchers Carlson was striding outside the pitching lane with every pitch. Wouldn't this be an illegal pitch. Reason that I'm asking is because my DD was called for an illegal pitch in 14u for exactly this reason with a screwball. There were no chalked pitching lanes so not sure how an umpire could see that. Are the rules different in college and If so why is there a pitching lane chalked?

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quincy · Feb 16, 2017

Rule is the same for college, I am pretty sure the entire foot needs to be outside the lane.

riseball · Feb 16, 2017

As [MENTION=2664]quincy[/MENTION] said the entire foot needs to be outside the line, and usually it has to be flagrant to get called. The gyrations to the side are not at all necessary for a screwball to be effective and doing so will undoubtedly lead to issues with her other pitches. Suggest she work to make her pitching motion as similar as possible for all her pitches if she want to pitch at a high level.

spleen1015 · Feb 16, 2017

My DD used to throw the screw that way until she faced a pitcher that did as well. She saw it coming so easy and hit is really well. She has since switched to Rick Pauly's way of throwing it which is pretty much all of the same except you don't step out and stick out your butt like that.

Legendsmom · Feb 16, 2017

She has been working on it. That happened awhile back, at least a couple of years ago. She hasn't ever been called for it since. I have been taking her to hillhouse and that was something he stressed was for all her pitches to look the same. I was just wondering how this pitcher from auburn is never called for an illegal pitch.

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riseball · Feb 16, 2017

Legendsmom said:
She has been working on it. That happened awhile back, at least a couple of years ago. She hasn't ever been called for it since. I have been taking her to hillhouse and that was something he stressed was for all her pitches to look the same. I was just wondering how this pitcher from auburn is never called for an illegal pitch.

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Why it is not called is one of the great mysteries of the softball universe. Umpires will tell you that they will call it if they see it. I guess their seeing eye dogs did not get the message. As someone said in another thread someone needs to drain the swamp.

Ajaywill · Feb 16, 2017

This subject has come up before...This particular call needs to come from the Plate Umpire. At the same time, however, there is this 12 inch yellow projectile traveling at approx 60 mph that is flying toward the PU. The primary duty of the PU is to track that yellow projectile from the time it leaves the pitcher's hand until the time it reaches the catcher's glove and judge whether it is a ball or strike. The call of the pitcher's ENTIRE foot outside of the lane needs to be extremely obvious because it is going to be picked up in peripheral vision. When you're sitting on a bucket in the dugout or up in the stands, it's really easy to just focus on the pitcher and where her foot lands without having to worry about the pitch. Yes...a good umpire will call it when they see it, but the pitch itself is the priority.

Phathead · Feb 16, 2017

Rise and spleen I just snapshot your response and sent to DD as hs is pushing it and that side stepping method. PC this week also gave it a big thumb down.

riseball · Feb 16, 2017

Ajaywill said:
This subject has come up before...This particular call needs to come from the Plate Umpire. At the same time, however, there is this 12 inch yellow projectile traveling at approx 60 mph that is flying toward the PU. The primary duty of the PU is to track that yellow projectile from the time it leaves the pitcher's hand until the time it reaches the catcher's glove and judge whether it is a ball or strike. The call of the pitcher's ENTIRE foot outside of the lane needs to be extremely obvious because it is going to be picked up in peripheral vision. When you're sitting on a bucket in the dugout or up in the stands, it's really easy to just focus on the pitcher and where her foot lands without having to worry about the pitch. Yes...a good umpire will call it when they see it, but the pitch itself is the priority.

Much like a slapper making contact out of the box. It has to be pretty obvious.

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