ROE

[nixxy311]

Good catch.

I did not know that. I was skeptical enough that I had to Google it.

“It is the ratio of the batter's times-on-base (TOB) (the sum of hits, walks, and times hit by pitch)”

Interesting that the the mistake by pitcher hitting the batter isn’t the same as a mistake by a fielder.

I think HBP and walks do factor into the pitchers FIP though. But that's more on the pitcher stats.

 

[softball dad 6]

IMHO there are 3 kinds of ROE

1. Hard hit balls. These are balls that while am average play would have gotten them out it was a tough play and you probably had to debate if it was a hit or an error.
2. Pressure plays. A girl who the other team knows is fast and they put pressure on themselves to get the out and increase the number of errors.
3. Lucky balls. These are the routine plays that the SS bobbles or the 3B throws over the head of 1B.

If you have a lot of ROE from #1 and or #2 everything will work out and you will be fine at least until you move up a level of defense. If the ROEs are because of #3 then the law of averages will catch up with you and that is not good.

The job of the lead off hitter is to get on base any way she can. The coach obviously believes your dd is the best option there. Her job is to make sure that continues to be the case.

For most girls working on hitting is a never ending process. DD was recruited because of her hitting. First day of fall practice the head coach spent the whole practice with her and basically told her everything that was wrong with her swing. She was overwhelmed and a little disappointed. After all these were the same people that had told her how much they liked her power and athleticism. Now they were telling her how "bad" she was. The second week of fall practice she asked if she was improving. His answer was "well maybe a little". I talked to her yesterday and she was excited. She told me all the little changes he had made and how much better the ball is jumping off her bat.


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[uncdrew]

She's 16U but one of the teams that committed an error was 18U

Hmmm...

I honestly thought your DD was 10U after reading the original post. If she's 16U, what do you sense is going on with "dinky hits to SS". That's a bit concerning to me.

She getting fooled by pitches? She trying to pull outside pitches? She not swinging hard enough?

 

[_MIA_]

“Stats are for losers” - Bill Belichick

Who cares..you should be able to tell whether your kid is swinging the bat well or not. If a kid is swinging the bat well it will all work itself out eventually..same thing if they are not. My kid swung like sh*& in the Spring and hit almost .400. She continued to swing like sh*& in the Fall and hit .250..I wasn't surprised.

The only thing having a high number ROE would correlate with is that your team is playing a large number of lousy teams..either that or your scorer doesn't like your DD very much..

 

[So Cal Seth]

Also, a proper scorekeeper wouldn't award the batter with a RBI if it occurred due to an error. So that robs the RBI stat, too.

Statistically, reaching on errors does nothing for a hitter.

(Of course, this does nothing to address the human element, and what your DD's coaches think of her and how they value her).

 

[nixxy311]

Hmmm...

I honestly thought your DD was 10U after reading the original post. If she's 16U, what do you sense is going on with "dinky hits to SS". That's a bit concerning to me.

She getting fooled by pitches? She trying to pull outside pitches? She not swinging hard enough?

Pretty sure it's usually inside pitches getting her. Her hitting coach had been practicing outside with her - probably need to work on the inside pitches.

She hits great in practice - it's always when facing harder pitchers that it takes her longer to adjust.

 

[nixxy311]

Also, a proper scorekeeper wouldn't award the batter with a RBI if it occurred due to an error. So that robs the RBI stat, too.

Statistically, reaching on errors does nothing for a hitter.

(Of course, this does nothing to address the human element, and what your DD's coaches think of her and how they value her).

If it's not the "3rd" out - they do get an RBI if it scores a runner - as any ground-out would if they get the batter at first and run comes in.

 

[nixxy311]

“Stats are for losers” - Bill Belichick

Who cares..you should be able to tell whether your kid is swinging the bat well or not. If a kid is swinging the bat well it will all work itself out eventually..same thing if they are not. My kid swung like sh*& in the Spring and hit almost .400. She continued to swing like sh*& in the Fall and hit .250..I wasn't surprised.

The only thing having a high number ROE would correlate with is that your team is playing a large number of lousy teams..either that or your scorer doesn't like your DD very much..

Playing pretty decent teams. Also I'm usually do the scoring and I am probably harder on her than any other player.

 

[_MIA_]

If it's not the "3rd" out - they do get an RBI if it scores a runner - as any ground-out would if they get the batter at first and run comes in.

Yes if the runner would have scored even if the error had not occurred they do get an RBI.

 

[So Cal Seth]

If it's not the "3rd" out - they do get an RBI if it scores a runner - as any ground-out would if they get the batter at first and run comes in.

I stand corrected! : )