Swing experiment

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Jan 6, 2009
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The axis of rotation is a lot cleaner IMO...... Previous swing was around the front hip. The most current swing is around the spine. Connection seems to be better also. You didn’t cast nearly as much in the most current swing. I am thinking there was an engine change.......


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I think you are correct, there is a better axis. All without any focus of the axis.
 
Feb 16, 2015
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Just to expand a little more. IMO the previous swing looks as if you were trying to actively resist rotation, if that makes sense? You were resisting with the rear hip and was attempting to use the hands as a trigger so to speak to release that tension created which was the main reason for the casting IMO. The hands/arms were getting ahead of everything else. This resistance may have been causing the front leg bracing (the pushing back) to be the main driver of rotating the pelvis, causing the front hip axis.

The newest swing looks like the middle is pulling better and you are allowing the hips/pelvis to be reactive to that pulling and not actively resisting it. Again JMHO........


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May 12, 2016
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This could be effect more than cause ... but IMO the 2nd swing you are not actively TTB with the hands from get go.
 
Apr 11, 2015
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You swung "down to" the stationary ball which allowed you to do it (from your initial spot/location) w/o shifting your weight forward that you felt you needed to do in order to get into a position where you were close enough to the ball in order to be able TTB behind it, and still reach it in the top/first swing.

IOWs, you couldn't simply TTB from where you did in the 2nd swing, or the barrel path would have been too steep, and you would have sliced through the back/top of the ball. So you felt that you needed to move forward to the ball so as the barrel would be closer to the ball and thus not so steep to it. Whereas in the 2nd swing, since you were swinging "down to" the ball, you didn't have to move forward as you felt/knew that you'd be able to extend your arms out to it from that position, and even possibly start the "upward" arc of the swing into the ball if far enough away from it.

EDIT: This is why we tell players/parents to move the tee to just inside the front foot or even better at the front knee after the front foot's stride location is determined. Because this is where most consistent contact is made, and also prevents what we're seeing in both of those swings...."reaching out" to the ball either by way of the stride or with the arms...neither of which is the optimum contact location for hitting the ball.
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Jan 6, 2009
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Chehalis, Wa
I did learn swinging down a long time ago. I didn’t focus on it during the most current swing.

I wanted to achieve hitting the ball out front. Perhaps it’s a little to far.

What’s the second most talked about aspect of a swing from a ML’er?,if number 1 was swinging down (which I think these two are flipped around, the second thing is swinging down).
 
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May 12, 2016
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Down to is what pros talk about the most... IMO anyway. Hands sure look different to me between the two swings. First swing looks like you supination immediately which causes you to lose the barrel a little and it looks loopy. 2nd swing you tighten things up a little .. I was thinking the same thing as Mud.. based on what the pros talk about the most “down to” . IMO anyway
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Ok, The only thing I focused on was using the hands. 20 years ago I discovered the the swing can be viewed and carried out as a top down sequence. Meaning the body is a slave to the hands. I thought the bottom up kinetic chain sequence was, well to much sequencing.

Many ML’ers talk about the hands.

As I was swinging in the good swing, I was becoming more aware of the body supporting the hands as I was swinging with the hands.

My hands remained loose even though I was using them.

To many people were wrong or I followed the wrong ideas, People like Dixon. I forgot about early experiments when I discovered the top down sequence.

There’s a lot I like about the new swing and it might look like I changed different things, although the only thing I change was using the hands instead of creating a kinetic chain that transferred energy into the hands.
 
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