1st year 14u - Swing mechanics what to work on

[fanboi22]

Not sure how others are talking about it. But in this video starting at the 5:15 mark is what I'm talking about.

ok, thanks. Now after i watch the Dr Ferree bits and look at the article of is more separation good, that really contradicts this. Wow, this is really getting to be something. This video is just like the J Stone progression bits with PVC, so nearly the same. But the more separation of the muscles the less power you have. i forget what article it was but showed at almost the most contracted and the most stretched is really where muscles fade and dont have power. So this is actually counter productive. I like what DrD;s DD is showing. Which has little to none of that. unless i didn't see correctly.

 

[fanboi22]

Looking at the swing in terms of tighter spaces to get more done. Big separation between hips and shoulders works better in golf than hitting. But even the longest hitters in golf close really fast.

Is that the Tiger video where he tries to feel his arms beat his hips? i cant recall exactly. I tried on the course a couple weeks ago and this i understood.

 

[DRDRODD]

so if Kime means 'decision' or 'commitment' i guess i dont understand. If the brake is a 'pulse' to stop the movement, i guess that's what i am missing. I think i would understand it as the allowance of the hand extension. Stop everything else so the whip can happen. I get it, just never thought of it that way. man you guys are getting deep.

Bruce Lee’s famous 1” punch is “Kime”...... In “Kime” the breaks are considered one of, if not the most important parts of the equation, it helps to transfer the force.


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[DRDRODD]

Also to me , this is so much different than the elbow locked to side on a rotational swing like trout. This last bit from your DD is where significant acceleration happens. IMO. In essence early bat speed is ok but not absolutely necessary.......maybe. You DD now starts so much more forward to the pitcher relatively speaking. taking a tighter more efficient path.

can i ask how the results have changed?

The biggest change has been the consistency....... Barrel after Barrel after Barrel.


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[julray]

this is what I’m talking about. The shoulders will adhere to the hands intent of ‘down to’ or ‘up through’ etc. the legs adjust to height imo. The posture will basically stay the same. Nolan Arenado will use the cue ‘stay tall’ to make sure he doesn’t change his posture; but his legs to the height of the ball. If we are talking about high pitches that’s more about space than posture. Hitting high pitches is a bit different bc you will need to come out of posture a bit w some space to cover the high ones. I like Lattas take on it, ‘if you gotta come out of posture to hit a ball, it’s not a strike.’

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these are players that have a pre-set posture and mainatain that bend at the waist throughout. This is pretty much the norm. The Mookie clip where he is hitting two different heights and speeds shows the same. Even though he gets into posture later than the other 3 examples above. He pretty much sets it before toe touch. Let me know if we are saying the same thing or not. I don’t think we are.

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I don't really agree with the preset posture statement. I believe posture is established to support the hands wherever the pitch location may be. All taken from one AB with Miggy



I also don't believe a hitter with good posture comes out their posture to hit a high pitch.. not saying it doesn't happen, but ideally it shouldn't. It's just different posture established for that pitch location.

 

[Work=wins]

This gif shows exactly where she goes wrong. Casting leading to bat drag. Her hands get stuck behind her elbow/torso. I think someone else mentioned to fix drag first before you worry about anything else and I think I agree. Deltoid drill.

I understand the premise of the deltoid. Too me that creates a east/west shoulder swing. Why not just create space for the hands to work, so she can be direct?

 

[fanboi22]

live and independent hands. Correct they should never be ‘tied’ to the shoulder. The hands work in a straight line to the ball, the shoulders rotate. To me the shoulders are nothing. They get acted upon and support the hands intent.

after reading for awhile, and getting a feel for how you understand the swing. I think you mixed patterns unknowingly and are now having to actually sort it out. Your DD is still on the young side, you have time. Don’t worry you will get it. Like DRD said she shows a lot of potential.

Nice cuts by the way. You got a little bit of drift and drag but like you said you only play Slo-pitch. You can do whatchalike in that league. Keep working.

right, but when you say live and independent hands you cannot say they are not then connected if they dont stay with the shoulders. Not that you said that, but maybe you did.

and BTW, i retired slow pitch a couple years ago to be lazy.

 

[fanboi22]

Bruce Lee’s famous 1” punch is “Kime”...... In “Kime” the breaks are considered one of, if not the most important parts of the equation, it helps to transfer the force.


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Is it like the Three inch punch in Kill Bill?

 

[fanboi22]

The biggest change has been the consistency....... Barrel after Barrel after Barrel.


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no need to share if you dont wish. but stats better?

 

[fanboi22]

I don't really agree with the preset posture statement. I believe posture is established to support the hands wherever the pitch location may be. All taken from one AB with Miggy

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I also don't believe a hitter with good posture comes out their posture to hit a high pitch.. not saying it doesn't happen, but ideally it shouldn't. It's just different posture established for that pitch location.