1st year 14u - Swing mechanics what to work on

[clemenslee1]

Ok, i think i understand. It just seems counter to what everyone has been saying about taking out the slack and stretching and range of motion. seems more like Altuve if i think of it right.

edit: i sent before i saw the Altuve GIF haha.

I've made the mistake of confusing stretch with "Pullback" during stride as taking the slack out.. Thats not taking slack out. To me its simply setting the hands at the launch position.

This might be a bad analogy but don't judge me lol

 

[Work=wins]

• I don't equate creating posture to dropping the back shoulder. Posture is established and the shoulders work around the spine. It just so happens that the back shoulder works down and front shoulder up. The way the shoulders work should not be forced, it's just their natural path when you have good posture.. the angle up or down they work depends on lateral tilt which depends on pitch location
• Posture is established at heel plant/toe touch.. so if being done correctly, the back shoulder should not drop prematurely
• You can have great FYB sequence but still poor posture.. that's why it's important to maintain it through out the swing.
• I absolutely agree that posture creates space for the hands. I makes the path to the ball short and helps eliminate a push swing. If a hitter loses posture, the hands need to work around the body result in a swing that's around the ball instead of through.
• I believe the alignment/tilt of the shoulders with pitch location to be a key component of the swing. Again this is a result of good posture, if the hitter is fooled they still have space to get the hands through and meet the ball.
• Posture is mostly created at the waist.. but most of us use the shoulders as a measuring stick. This can lead to confusion sometimes
• Posture is not always the same in every swing.. it's dictated by pitch height/location. That's why it can't be created prior to toe touch/heel plant. The most important thing is that when you establish it, you maintain it through out the swing

this is what I’m talking about. The shoulders will adhere to the hands intent of ‘down to’ or ‘up through’ etc. the legs adjust to height imo. The posture will basically stay the same. Nolan Arenado will use the cue ‘stay tall’ to make sure he doesn’t change his posture; but his legs to the height of the ball. If we are talking about high pitches that’s more about space than posture. Hitting high pitches is a bit different bc you will need to come out of posture a bit w some space to cover the high ones. I like Lattas take on it, ‘if you gotta come out of posture to hit a ball, it’s not a strike.’





these are players that have a pre-set posture and mainatain that bend at the waist throughout. This is pretty much the norm. The Mookie clip where he is hitting two different heights and speeds shows the same. Even though he gets into posture later than the other 3 examples above. He pretty much sets it before toe touch. Let me know if we are saying the same thing or not. I don’t think we are.

 

[BigSkyHi]

That is part of it..... I believe it is a bracing action of the body, contraction that is very brief, some call this action “pulse”. The dead leg is what helps create the crossbody tension so that the brakes are more effective....

Edit: think of the pulse as “Kime” in martial arts......

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Would this also be an example of your goals from a younger player than old man Altuve?

- Ronald Acuna Jr. Home Run Swing Slow Motion 2019-2

 

[Work=wins]

I've made the mistake of confusing stretch with "Pullback" during stride as taking the slack out.. Thats not taking slack out. To me its simply setting the hands at the launch position.

This might be a bad analogy but don't judge me lol

I believe this is what she was doing prior. Introducing drag and length to the swing.

 

[clemenslee1]

I believe this is what she was doing prior. Introducing drag and length to the swing.

Correct, I thinks often confused. The video might not be a good analogy,but it's simply to show the slack taken out

 

[Work=wins]

Looking at the swing in terms of tighter spaces to get more done. Big separation between hips and shoulders works better in golf than hitting. But even the longest hitters in golf close really fast.

folks really need to understand this. It makes a world of difference when learning hitting imo. A ‘ new’ foundation to build from.

 

[Work=wins]

I agree with your comment on shoulder tilt, however my DD drops her hands below the shoulder and the shoulders dont' follow the hands. so i have to work with her on the feel of keeping the hands aligned. That was when i has having her lock her hands to the shoulder so that any attempt to move hands down to the ball was followed by the shoulder tilt.

live and independent hands. Correct they should never be ‘tied’ to the shoulder. The hands work in a straight line to the ball, the shoulders rotate. To me the shoulders are nothing. They get acted upon and support the hands intent.

after reading for awhile, and getting a feel for how you understand the swing. I think you mixed patterns unknowingly and are now having to actually sort it out. Your DD is still on the young side, you have time. Don’t worry you will get it. Like DRD said she shows a lot of potential.

Nice cuts by the way. You got a little bit of drift and drag but like you said you only play Slo-pitch. You can do whatchalike in that league. Keep working.

 

[fanboi22]

That is part of it..... I believe it is a bracing action of the body, contraction that is very brief, some call this action “pulse”. The dead leg is what helps create the crossbody tension so that the brakes are more effective....

Edit: think of the pulse as “Kime” in martial arts......

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so if Kime means 'decision' or 'commitment' i guess i dont understand. If the brake is a 'pulse' to stop the movement, i guess that's what i am missing. I think i would understand it as the allowance of the hand extension. Stop everything else so the whip can happen. I get it, just never thought of it that way. man you guys are getting deep.

 

[fanboi22]

This gif shows exactly where she goes wrong. Casting leading to bat drag. Her hands get stuck behind her elbow/torso. I think someone else mentioned to fix drag first before you worry about anything else and I think I agree. Deltoid drill.

worked on it tonight. not sure we got anywhere but will share when i can load them up.

 

[fanboi22]

That is part of it..... I believe it is a bracing action of the body, contraction that is very brief, some call this action “pulse”. The dead leg is what helps create the crossbody tension so that the brakes are more effective....

Edit: think of the pulse as “Kime” in martial arts......

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Also to me , this is so much different than the elbow locked to side on a rotational swing like trout. This last bit from your DD is where significant acceleration happens. IMO. In essence early bat speed is ok but not absolutely necessary.......maybe. You DD now starts so much more forward to the pitcher relatively speaking. taking a tighter more efficient path.

can i ask how the results have changed?