14U team DQ'ed at LL World Series for social media post

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May 17, 2012
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100% "coaches" fault! He runs a team that puts themselves above Little League, the game, their parents, and their community. The direction that some of these lousy "coaches" take is deplorable. Raising rats is easy, contributing human beings not so much

I am not raising your kid. While there may be teachable moments the amount of time I spend with players is very small.

Back in the day parents used to raise kids instead of teachers and coaches.
 
May 23, 2015
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I am not raising your kid. While there may be teachable moments the amount of time I spend with players is very small.

Back in the day parents used to raise kids instead of teachers and coaches.

Every successful person that I've every met or that I've seen interviews will point to a milestone in life and credit their success to a teacher and in many instances a coach. I would strongly recommend being a positive impact in the lives of children. There's a lot more to life than a flimsy $3 piece of plastic and wearing a shirt 3 sizes too small with COACH across the back.

A real coach is a monarch that determines the mindset and direction of their team. You can ALWAYS see a poorly behaving and disrespectful team is lead by a weak spineless coach, Never fails
 
Jun 12, 2015
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I'm guessing both parents and coaches had plenty of chances to nip this kind of behavior in the bud.

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May 26, 2008
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If you want to get to the root of responsibility and accountability, you first need to take an objective look at a mirror.

We all knows its the adults fault. Parents and coaches have to make it clear that that kind of conduct won't be tolerated. The kids aren't stupid.

When I was coaching 3B, a kid on my team made a disrespectful comment about the other team. I stopped the game and made the entire team (including my DD) run a lap.

After that, the team was great. I received several compliments from umpires and coaches about how great the kids were.
 
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Aug 21, 2011
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From what I read, the Kirkland team was caught stealing signs from 2nd base and relaying them to the batter. That is why the player and coach were ejected. Atlee still won the game 1-0 and the Atlee girls were just giving the Kirkland team the freedom finger to say you cheated and we still beat you. I think the punishment was a little rough for the crime. Then you award the team that was cheating in the first place by giving them the win? I don't get that decision.

Well...except that the Snapchat post was made before the game against Kirkland.
 
Apr 5, 2013
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Back on the dirt...
100% "coaches" fault! He runs a team that puts themselves above Little League, the game, their parents, and their community. The direction that some of these lousy "coaches" take is deplorable. Raising rats is easy, contributing human beings not so much

You are so far off base that I cannot even give a legitimate reply.
 
Feb 7, 2013
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We all knows its the adults fault. Parents and coaches have to make it clear that that kind of conduct won't be tolerated. The kids aren't stupid.

When I was coaching 3B, a kid on my team made a disrespectful comment about the other team. I stopped the game and made the entire team (including my DD) run a lap.

After that, the team was great. I received several compliments from umpires and coaches about how great the kids were.

Great story sluggers.

Several years back, after winning a bracket game, DD's team was in line to shake hands with the opposing team. One player from the other team repeatedly said "you suck' after shaking each of our players hand. We mentioned this to the opposing coach and she immediately called everyone over, identified her player that made the comments and had her apologize to every one of our players. I still respect this coach for how she handled the situation.
 
Jun 27, 2011
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It’s not the job of Little League to make this a learning moment, IMO. It the job of Little League to set a standard and uphold it. They are a baseball/softball organization, not a Sunday School class. They've made a statement, and now it’s up to the players, parents and coaches to make it a learning moment.

It’s also not the parents’ or the coaches’ fault, IMO. It’s the fault of the players who participated, assuming no adults knew about it. I don’t doubt that the parents and coaches can’t do a better job. We all can. And I didn't love the head coach's response. But I’m not going to judge a parent or coach that I don’t know on the basis of one mistake that a child makes. Kids make mistakes. They need to own them. Don't blame their parents unless we know more information, IMO.

And finally, it's interesting to me that most people seem to want a higher standard of sportsmanship, but when someone like LL sets that bar high, there is still a fair amount of criticism. Some try to find times when the person or organization didn't always hold such a high standard and call it hypocrisy. Or they accuse the bar-setter of being self-righteous, too harsh, etc.. Or they find inconsistencies in their rules and say it's not fair. Or they doubt the true motives and say it's all about money. You can't win.

Little League isn't perfect, but I think they got this one right.
 
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