14U team DQ'ed at LL World Series for social media post

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Jul 5, 2016
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All these excuses for why the little brats should not have gotten tossed. And people wonder why IP's are not enforced. Play by the rules, respect the game or be gone!

Honestly, when I look at the stuff on T.V. at night and when I see the apparent national obsession with crass celebrities, many of whom have never done anything to make the world a better place , it is hard for me to stomach adults getting preachy about the behavior of a bunch of middle school girls. Having said that, I don't know that anybody is saying that the team should not have received some sort of punishment. However, to DQ the entire team for the actions of one girl is too much.

While on the one hand, I can't understand why people still post pictures to social media when they shouldn't, it still happens all the time at all ages. So, unless these girls were specifically told the policy at some point, I am having a little trouble thinking they are any worse than any other young person out there.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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Honestly, when I look at the stuff on T.V. at night and when I see the apparent national obsession with crass celebrities, many of whom have never done anything to make the world a better place , it is hard for me to stomach adults getting preachy about the behavior of a bunch of middle school girls. Having said that, I don't know that anybody is saying that the team should not have received some sort of punishment. However, to DQ the entire team for the actions of one girl is too much.

While on the one hand, I can't understand why people still post pictures to social media when they shouldn't, it still happens all the time at all ages. So, unless these girls were specifically told the policy at some point, I am having a little trouble thinking they are any worse than any other young person out there.

That is the disconnect. It is not about being any worse. When you represent your team and community on a national stage you are expected to rise above the collective behavior of the rest of the herd. Little League had no other option and even so made the right decision.
 
Jul 5, 2016
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That is the disconnect. It is not about being any worse. When you represent your team and community on a national stage you are expected to rise above the collective behavior of the rest of the herd. Little League had no other option and even so made the right decision.

I think it's all about money. If these girls were of commercial value to somebody, their behavior would be excused in a flash. Just look at our professional athletes. Although to the NFL's credit, they don't excuse domestic violence, for example, with the same vigor that they used to, even if they do come down harder on athletes like Richard Sherman when he doesn't want to talk to the press.
 
Jun 22, 2008
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Honestly, when I look at the stuff on T.V. at night and when I see the apparent national obsession with crass celebrities, many of whom have never done anything to make the world a better place , it is hard for me to stomach adults getting preachy about the behavior of a bunch of middle school girls. Having said that, I don't know that anybody is saying that the team should not have received some sort of punishment. However, to DQ the entire team for the actions of one girl is too much.

While on the one hand, I can't understand why people still post pictures to social media when they shouldn't, it still happens all the time at all ages. So, unless these girls were specifically told the policy at some point, I am having a little trouble thinking they are any worse than any other young person out there.

Actions of 1 girl? There are 6 girls in the photo flipping the bird and apparently a 7th taking the photo and who knows if it was one of those 7 that actually posted it or an 8th player that did that. So you have 6, 7 or 8 girls that participated and deserve to be suspended, the team only had 12 on the roster so how does the team possibly continue to play?
 
Jul 5, 2016
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Actions of 1 girl? There are 6 girls in the photo flipping the bird and apparently a 7th taking the photo and who knows if it was one of those 7 that actually posted it or an 8th player that did that. So you have 6, 7 or 8 girls that participated and deserve to be suspended, the team only had 12 on the roster so how does the team possibly continue to play?

I must be getting soft in my old age, but I am keenly aware of second chances I got in high school and even in the Army and I am keenly aware of the fact that not growing up with social media prevented me from doing a whole passel of stupid things that I undoubtedly would otherwise have done. So, I don't really think anything of value of accomplished by DQ'ing this team.
 
May 4, 2016
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I must be getting soft in my old age, but I am keenly aware of second chances I got in high school and even in the Army and I am keenly aware of the fact that not growing up with social media prevented me from doing a whole passel of stupid things that I undoubtedly would otherwise have done. So, I don't really think anything of value of accomplished by DQ'ing this team.

Hopefully it taught them a couple of lessons; respect your opponents, beware what you post to social media, and do something stupid you have to pay the consequences. What lessons would have been taught if the whole thing had been excused?
 
Feb 17, 2014
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I think it's all about money. If these girls were of commercial value to somebody, their behavior would be excused in a flash. Just look at our professional athletes. Although to the NFL's credit, they don't excuse domestic violence, for example, with the same vigor that they used to, even if they do come down harder on athletes like Richard Sherman when he doesn't want to talk to the press.

From an organizational standpoint LL made the smart move. If you let them hang around it becomes about their antics and not the tournament. One of the network morning shows will hail them as some type of Social Justice heroes and interview them live from the location. Instead LL rightly gave them the boot and sent the the team and the issue down the road. It sets the tone for the future that it will not be tolerated.
 
May 23, 2015
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100% "coaches" fault! He runs a team that puts themselves above Little League, the game, their parents, and their community. The direction that some of these lousy "coaches" take is deplorable. Raising rats is easy, contributing human beings not so much
 

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Feb 21, 2009
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These girls, like all kids their age, have been "coached" for their entire lives by their parents as opposed to maybe a couple of months by their LL all star coaches. If you want to get to the root of responsibility and accountability, you first need to take an objective look at a mirror.
 
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