Yep, DD also has the Ringor with toe protect, a pair last about 6 months. Considering I was buying regular cleats every 2 months the Ringors have turned out to be cheaper over the course of a year. What I am trying to do now is find a left handed pitcher that wears a ladies size 10.5. That way when DD wears out the toe I would be able to have a wearable pair by putting my DD's left shoe with the other pitchers right shoe. As it is now I end up with one shoe without a toe and the other in almost new pristine condition...