Pitching question

[Rampage]

No, you will have a hip pointer from your elbow and whip that is late..you want I/R to BE OCCURRING at brush...you do not want to start the I/R at brush...

Elbow to hip is a recipe for being TOO FAR inside the ball, having bullet spin, and losing some velocity.

I'm interested in the answer to the original question...also what can you do with hips popping out instead of rotating...I have been told both ways as well...hips rotate after release...hips before release...rotate being around 35-50 degrees...I would love some input on the hips popping rearward to clear a lane for the ball...I have worked this for a while

 

[JAD]

It is somewhere in between, of course the hips can and should contribute power through a torque move, but the idea of SLAMMING THE DOOR with the hips that is so common is a death sentence. Look at slo motion video of the best and note the hip action. around 45 degrees open is a good place to be at release, enough so the hips have had enough room to torque into the pitch but not enough to kill adduction and I/R.

This^^^^^^

 

[Rampage]

JAD I don't see how before or after release can be IN BETWEEN....Its either before or after.

This videoi s the best I've seen and I just found it! This helps me a ton!

 

[JAD]

JAD I don't see how before or after release can be IN BETWEEN....Its either before or after.

In my mind there are three choices for hip/core rotation - before, during, or after release....and my vote is during. Does a batter rotate their hip/core before, during, or after the swing? The problem with just saying "after" is that some pitchers rotate too late to generate any power and are throwing with just their arms - you see a lot of this at 10U/12U. By 14U pitchers who do not generate any power with their hips/core are playing REC ball or have given up pitching.

 

[Rampage]

In my mind there are three choices for hip/core rotation - before, during, or after release....and my vote is during. Does a batter rotate their hip/core before, during, or after the swing? The problem with just saying "after" is that some pitchers rotate too late to generate any power and are throwing with just their arms - you see a lot of this at 10U/12U. By 14U pitchers who do not generate any power with their hips/core are playing REC ball or have given up pitching.

A batter initiates the swing with the hips...So before! But we could also argue when the swing starts.

 

[Rampage]

I agree the video shows me during release!

 

[Rampage]

Here is yet another view on the hips. Rich is advocating landing at a 45 degree angle,Yet another variance!

 

[JJsqueeze]

The BETWEEN referenced in my post was positional not temporal.

 

[JJsqueeze]

And on behalf of DFP members who have not been banned 100 times let me welcome you back el señor trollio. May this incarnation bless you with a long ride and many balls next to your name.

 

[inde53546]

I would love some input on the hips popping rearward to clear a lane for the ball...I have worked this for a while

This is a problem for my dd as well. I believe Amy's dd also did this. Any input/suggestions on how to improve this. Is it purely a posture issue or a rush to get open?