BM
You are one grumpy person.
His description of wrist snap was not in the video. It was in a post in answer to my question. And my comment was nothing to do with what Phil was doing either, because I know he was not really pitching the ball and that makes the video different than a real pitch.
You make such a dogma out of this it is difficult to have a conversation. I ask again, were you a pitcher? I just don't see isolating bits of the motion and analyzing them so much and finding video more real than real life. Pitchers don't pitch with their brains that full of anything but getting results.
I also have seen pitching evolve and understand that there are other ways that might inform me, rather than saying 'our way is the only way.' I say again I pitch and my hand only goes sideways, and it worked for and still works for me (I used to throw really hard). I still think rolling it over is a style.
And all of this as an obsession to curing the hello elbow some false construct made up by some dad that you may see in one out 20 , 10 year olds who were taught by another dad.
Hmmmmm......I'd have to say that coach Phil and I are as far apart on this subject as the sun and moon..........
And In fact, I'd also venture an educated guess that that Coach Phil is actually still in the process of discovery and interpretation with regard to I/R.......And the fact that he states that "some of you might call this I/R" in his original video post on youtube, tells me he's been reading here.........GOOD FOR HIM!
However, IMO the actions he's suggesting for "elbow snap" should NOT be taught IMO...........
This folks.......Is NOT I/R.......It is not the beginning, or the cause of I/R........Infact.......It has nothing to do with I/R..........
I'll guarantee you there is no "elbow snap" (forced unrestrained rapid extension) in the high level I/R delivery mechanics of delivering a softball to the target..........
Internal Rotation is a series of tightening rotations..........Full Arm/Shoulder rotation.......Internal Bicep (humeral rotation).......Internal Forearm rotation.......Internal Wrist rotation.......Internal finger articulation..........All coupled together in a kinematic sequence of events that exploits the kinetic chain..........
Remember the "Hanson Principle" people.........
Elbow Snap (unrestrained rapid extension) is the last thing I would teach my students.........And has nothing to do with creating an I/R POWERED delivery..........
Let me also add that Coach Phil's interpretation of "Hello Elbow" is SPOT ON............Trying to propel the ball by flexing the elbow AND wrist at release...........
BM
You are one grumpy person.
His description of wrist snap was not in the video. It was in a post in answer to my question. And my comment was nothing to do with what Phil was doing either, because I know he was not really pitching the ball and that makes the video different than a real pitch.
You make such a dogma out of this it is difficult to have a conversation. I ask again, were you a pitcher? I just don't see isolating bits of the motion and analyzing them so much and finding video more real than real life. Pitchers don't pitch with their brains that full of anything but getting results.
I also have seen pitching evolve and understand that there are other ways that might inform me, rather than saying 'our way is the only way.' I say again I pitch and my hand only goes sideways, and it worked for and still works for me (I used to throw really hard). I still think rolling it over is a style.
And all of this as an obsession to curing the hello elbow some false construct made up by some dad that you may see in one out 20 , 10 year olds who were taught by another dad.