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rdbass

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I know I'm new on here so I'll announce I'm a fan of humor and sarcasm . I was joking .

Since you're new and probably didn't get the memo there will be no humor nor sarcasm in the tech hitting threads. I'll keep my eyes on you.
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Apr 1, 2014
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Question: Is power generating in this clip .....
A. Just started and on its way?
B. Done with?
C. Don't know

Why?

If you don't want to show how you train a hitter, then show us a hitter you have trained to confirm that your understanding leads to the production of a swing comparable to the elite MLB swing we're looking for.

Here is my student. He is my son at 13 y.o.; he no longer plays baseball. He is a soccer player.

 
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I will give it a shot, my opinion he done with generating power, hes at go, bat launch, power generated is before launch. He already pulled back, u can see the scruch/torsion bar. Your son has an explosive swing, why did he stop baseball? What year was that clip. Also thank you very much for your insight of the swing.
 
Apr 1, 2014
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fielderback_zpse81d8c63.gif


Question: Is power generating in this clip .....
A. Just started and on its way?
B. Done with?
C. Don't know

Why?

I will give it a shot, my opinion he done with generating power, hes at go, bat launch, power generated is before launch. He already pulled back, u can see the scruch/torsion bar. Your son has an explosive swing, why did he stop baseball? What year was that clip. Also thank you very much for your insight of the swing.

Fielder is at the cusp of releasing the swivel. This is the embodiment of the OVERLAP. His torsion bar is scrunched; his turn of the barrel will add a bit more, as he "unloads into the load". Forces then gets released as an instantaneous "burst".

This is the amateur's profile:
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Batspeed builds then gets maximally accelerated to the point of contact. This is the product of a kinetic chain of events in a system of linkages through a ground-based axis of rotation.

In contrast, the elite hitter works through the principle of torsion. Batspeed is immediately accelerated. An instant widening in the initial series of time dependent red dots in the graphic is generated. Velocity is uniformly maintained towards the ball once the bat emerges from the back side curve; the swing is "done": There is no build-up because it had already been accomplished by the time of bat release.
 
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Greenmonsters

Wannabe Duck Boat Owner
Feb 21, 2009
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Fielder is at the cusp of releasing the swivel. This is the embodiment of the OVERLAP. His torsion bar is scrunched; his turn of the barrel will add a bit more, as he "unloads into the load". Forces then gets released as an instantaneous "burst".

This is the amateur's profile:
image002.gif


Batspeed builds then gets maximally accelerated to the point of contact. This is the product of a kinetic chain of events in a system of linkages through a ground-based axis of rotation.

In contrast, the elite hitter works through the principle of torsion. Batspeed is immediately accelerated. An instant widening in the initial series of time dependent red dots in the graphic is generated. Velocity is uniformly maintained towards the ball once the bat emerges from the back side curve; the swing is "done": There is no build-up because it had already been accomplished by the time of bat release.

I like your son's swing - baseball's loss is soccer's gain.

I have several questions about the time-lapse photo. It is unfortunate that there is no HLBB swing or checked swings in similar format for comparison. In the amateur vid the speed appears pretty constant up until the acceleration at about the point where the purple dot path intersects the red dot path, which is about the latest point at which I think a hitter has the ability to stop or check the swing. I have trouble with the concept that the spring/coil is released/acceleration starts immediately with the turning of the barrel in the HLBB swing because that precludes the ability to check a swing if the pitch is determined to be out of the hitter's predetermined go zone. In other words, I think the barrel is turned but the spring isn't released until the pitch location has been determined which seems to be exactly what is shown in the amateur video. Thoughts?
 
Oct 10, 2011
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I like your son's swing - baseball's loss is soccer's gain.

I have several questions about the time-lapse photo. It is unfortunate that there is no HLBB swing or checked swings in similar format for comparison. In the amateur vid the speed appears pretty constant up until the acceleration at about the point where the purple dot path intersects the red dot path, which is about the latest point at which I think a hitter has the ability to stop or check the swing. I have trouble with the concept that the spring/coil is released/acceleration starts immediately with the turning of the barrel in the HLBB swing because that precludes the ability to check a swing if the pitch is determined to be out of the hitter's predetermined go zone. In other words, I think the barrel is turned but the spring isn't released until the pitch location has been determined which seems to be exactly what is shown in the amateur video. Thoughts?

BINGO. I think you nailed it.

Like I said in an earlier post, hitting is not Black or White.

Your home run swing would be an early commitment, while another swing might be looking for something specific, while another might be two strikes.

Home run derby, now really, we are for sure are going to talk early bat speed.
 
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... I have trouble with the concept that the spring/coil is released/acceleration starts immediately with the turning of the barrel in the HLBB swing because that precludes the ability to check a swing if the pitch is determined to be out of the hitter's predetermined go zone. In other words, I think the barrel is turned but the spring isn't released until the pitch location has been determined which seems to be exactly what is shown in the amateur video. Thoughts?


BINGO. I think you nailed it.

Your home run swing would be an early commitment, while another swing might be looking for something specific, while another might be two strikes.

Home run derby, now really, we are for sure are going to talk early bat speed.

The beauty of the torsion model is its component parts: If the SCIP Axis is the power source, and the hand swivel the switch and command control, the SCAPULA is the system's transmission. It is "pinched" and engaged in transmitting the system's torque into the hand swivel for the launch; it DISENGAGES OR LOCKS when all levers and swivels are launched for the TAKE. The switch is DECOUPLED from its power supply.

Note: The scapula is an unheralded component, but plays a crucial role in the high level swing. There is no discussion on this site that I am aware of that reviews this. I believe it is because it has no role in rotational mechanics. In high level swing, it plays an INTEGRAL and VITAL function.
 
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Jun 17, 2009
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Batspeed builds then gets maximally accelerated to the point of contact. This is the product of a kinetic chain of events in a system of linkages through a ground-based axis of rotation.

That isn't what I see in the above graphic.

Looks more like the last five (possibly 6) dot-to-dot spaces prior to contact are roughly equal in length .... which would suggest constant velocity .... which would mean the barrel is not accelerating during that particular time duration.
 

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