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Anybody know of good drills / videos explaining the turnover drop? Looking for a couple drills that are progression to actual pitching.
Osterman threw the peel drop.
To each his own but I suggest Rick Pauley's rollover drop. It's neither a peel nor a turnover.
If you have no forearm or upper arm rotation, then it is a fastball.
If a pitcher has a good rise, then the pitcher does not need a great drop. She can use "middle ground".
In fact, Hillhouse always says all you need is a great rise and great drop ball, combined with an off-speed pitch and you are golden.
Said another way, why not teach maximum break for both the riseball and the drop ball.
With that said, slo-mo video has shown that no one's hand actually rolls over the top of the ball during a "roll over drop" and no one is actually peeling up the back of the ball during the "peel drop"
Because the pitcher doesn't have the time to master both.
It takes a lot of work to learn the mechanics of throwing a drop or rise. But, so what? Throwing a pitch with a lot of movement is *NOTHING*. It is a parlor trick.
The pitcher has to learn control of the breaking pitch. By the time a kid learns how to really throw a breaking pitch and develops control, she is 18YOA and heading to college. Four years later, her career is over..
I don't agree with this blanket statement "If you have a great rise you don't need a great drop ball". Maybe, maybe not. IMO the bigger the difference in break to your two vertical pitches (rise vs drop), the better. In fact, Hillhouse always says all you need is a great rise and great drop ball, combined with an off-speed pitch and you are golden. Said another way, why not teach maximum break for both the riseball and the drop ball. Some days, the pitcher doesn't have the best command with one or the other pitch, so why not try to get as much break (i.e. movement) that you can on all pitches?