TTB and Swing Adjustability

[TDS]

Lol.. I want to see Bobby’s version of it

Here is a dad but don't know if he was giving an honest attempt.

 

[julray]

Here is a dad but don't know if he was giving an honest attempt.

Yes I asked him to post it for me, it was a honest attempt.

 

[james27503]

Here is a dad but don't know if he was giving an honest attempt.

Very honest attempt, to do exactly as is demoed in the AROD video. I am sorry but I think this boils down to which side of the brain you use. If you are left brain this teaching is not going to work. I am very very left brain. I am an IT guy. I can crush math but struggle with even spelling. English language makes no sense to me. If you are right brain then you are able to "interpret" what they are doing.

For us a coaches moving forward I think having a mastery over both approaches and knowing on which kid to apply it to is how you become a great coach. If showing a kid the ARod demo move and he/she swings like ARod in a game then that is what you teach him. If you show that to JD Martinez and he\she like myself tries to do it exactly as shown then you need to teach him down, but down from behind. Explain get on plane early and his brain will produce his new game swing.

 

[TDS]

Very honest attempt, to do exactly as is demoed in the AROD video. I am sorry but I think this boils down to which side of the brain you use. If you are left brain this teaching is not going to work. I am very very left brain. I am an IT guy. I can crush math but struggle with even spelling. English language makes no sense to me. If you are right brain then you are able to "interpret" what they are doing.

For us a coaches moving forward I think having a mastery over both approaches and knowing on which kid to apply it to is how you become a great coach. If showing a kid the ARod demo move and he/she swings like ARod in a game then that is what you teach him. If you show that to JD Martinez and he\she like myself tries to do it exactly as shown then you need to teach him down, but down from behind. Explain get on plane early and his brain will produce his new game swing.

James, the legs should feel leveraged against the core. IOW's the core is streching until it contracts. Nothing should be stretched and then held.. Think SSC.

Your attempt appears locked up (no SSC) through the core so you need to shift to the front leg and then use the arms to swing down.

The core (obliques) stretching is a relaxed feeling until the contraction occurs.

 

[Bobby Shirer]

No, I believe he was fyb.

Do you think Williams swung down?

 

[Bobby Shirer]

Very honest attempt, to do exactly as is demoed in the AROD video. I am sorry but I think this boils down to which side of the brain you use. If you are left brain this teaching is not going to work. I am very very left brain. I am an IT guy. I can crush math but struggle with even spelling. English language makes no sense to me. If you are right brain then you are able to "interpret" what they are doing.

For us a coaches moving forward I think having a mastery over both approaches and knowing on which kid to apply it to is how you become a great coach. If showing a kid the ARod demo move and he/she swings like ARod in a game then that is what you teach him. If you show that to JD Martinez and he\she like myself tries to do it exactly as shown then you need to teach him down, but down from behind. Explain get on plane early and his brain will produce his new game swing.

Mirrors and video are great teaching aids.

 

[TDS]

Do you think Williams swung down?

Yep, down to.

 

[Bobby Shirer]

Yep, down to.

But he decried swinging down and even wrote a book about swinging slightly up. There are videos with him swinging slightly up. There are videos of all the pros swinging slightly up.
Do you define up as toward the sky from flat horizontal and down as toward the ground from flat horizontal or do you have a different meaning like Julray's bs?

 

[Bobby Shirer]

According to Williams it doesn't involve the hips at all.. go back and read, and get back to me.

Bobby, provide a video of somebody swinging down, complete swing, not a demo.. doesn't have to be a pro. I am just curious what you mean by swinging down. Not looking to read a paragraph long description, just a video. Last video I seen I seen of somebody trying to swing down in a FYB sequence, they had 0 posture and no tilt. It was actually kind of comical.

WILLIAMS: Now, if I swing slightly up, I hit it with the greatest impact. This swing incorporates the single most important thing—not shifting your weight but getting your butt moving, your hips working.

 

[Bobby Shirer]

According to Williams it doesn't involve the hips at all.. go back and read, and get back to me.

Bobby, provide a video of somebody swinging down, complete swing, not a demo.. doesn't have to be a pro. I am just curious what you mean by swinging down. Not looking to read a paragraph long description, just a video. Last video I seen I seen of somebody trying to swing down in a FYB sequence, they had 0 posture and no tilt. It was actually kind of comical.