This new training tool reflects a whole hitting philosophy...is it right?

[mann]

Mann, listen again to the video ..... specifically focus on what is said between 7:30 - 7:45. Is that truly what you want. Almost seems to be advocating elbow stall.

Got it. Not good. I like Mankin, But as with most instruction you have to pick the good from the bad.

The elbow spacing would be after slot, not measured before FP. on an Optimum swing.

this young man has an elbow spacing problem, to me, and i would deal with it as such.

I do not think it is a shoulder flying open problem, it is leaving the bat and hands behind, because of improper arm positioning problem.

Once fixed his timing will be off, he will be early because the bat will get where its going with that shoulder rotation, not after.

 

[FP26]

The elbow spacing would be after slot, not measured before FP. on an Optimum swing.

Sorry mann. I am just not a fan of the philosophy. I do not do anything with elbow spacing at all. I did at one point, but decided to move on. If it works for you, great. I'll pass.

 

[mann]

Sorry mann. I am just not a fan of the philosophy. I do not do anything with elbow spacing at all. I did at one point, but decided to move on. If it works for you, great. I'll pass.

do you work with the front arm?

 

[FP26]

do you work with the front arm?

Not sure what you mean... Let's start this way. When considering the relationship/distance between the elbows, what is your starting point and what is your ending point? I assume you are focusing on keeping a constant distance between the elbows from Point A of the swing to Point B of the swing. Please define Point A and Point B and then I will reply with what I look at.

Note: I may not be able to respond until later this evening...

 

[lhowser]

I agree with the responders. Stay away from this tool.

In the video with the kid hitting the bag. The second frame shows his front shoulder pulled out early to get his hands in position. I want my batters to stay "in" on the ball longer.

This is interesting, I hear people say this a lot. I see people focus on it in drills, but in most game swings I see the front shoulder turn out or tilt and turn out as a way to rotate the barrel to contact. Do you have some clips of batters keeping the shoulder in longer in game swings?

 

[mann]

Absolutes for me from Mankin. You must stay connected to shoulder rotation, or you will lose the corner.


Some say pulling the front shoulder when they mean they are dipping, or not using that front side scrunch.

Again to me it means they left the hands behind in shoulder rotation

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Absolutes for me from Mankin. You must stay connected to shoulder rotation, or you will lose the corner.


Some say pulling the front shoulder when they mean they are dipping, or not using that front side scrunch.

Again to me it means they left the hands behind in shoulder rotation

Maybe this would be a good time for Butter to review "escape force motion".

 

[mann]

Maybe this would be a good time for Butter to review "escape force motion".

escape force motion. Hmm from the this page Escape Force Motion: The One Thought Golf Swing


"How to accelerate past impact, and how Mike became the first player confirmed by Callaway to demonstrate this breakthrough."


Five, whats your take on the reading of the pitch then setting your foot open or closed?

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

escape force motion. Hmm from the this page Escape Force Motion: The One Thought Golf Swing


"How to accelerate past impact, and how Mike became the first player confirmed by Callaway to demonstrate this breakthrough."


Five, whats your take on the reading of the pitch then setting your foot open or closed?

Good way to ruin a hitter.

 

[mann]

Good way to ruin a hitter.

Can you elaborate a little? I see that you and rdbass view this differently, and he made a good case with his gifs.