Riseball physics and the Media?

[corlay]

Hello All.

I've been away from the Forum for a number of years,
but read this excerpt in a MLB context today,
and it sparked the question:

"Yamamoto releases the ball from a low arm slot and has exceptional carry on his fastball, meaning its pure backspin causes it to drop less than a batter expects, so it looks as if it were rising."

Have the NCAA Fastpitch Media come around on the actual physics of a "riseball", yet?
Or are Michelle Smith and the like still describing magic tricks...
I'm just curious.

 

[LEsoftballdad]

Welcome back.

No, the Hair is still describing magic tricks. Every pitch thrown is this, that, or the other thing despite the fact it has bullet spin.

 

[Rolling Hard]

I know I am in Ihe minority but I like her voice as an announcer. She bring enthusiasm and she is good for the game, IMO. Yeah, the pitch calling and some of the exaggeration might bother the softball experts but for the casual viewers she keeps it exciting.

 

[Northball]

Welcome back.

No, the Hair is still describing magic tricks. Every pitch thrown is this, that, or the other thing despite the fact it has bullet spin.

It's even more amazing since she's watching from an extra 30-50 feet back and elevated another 10-20 feet in the pressbox.

 

[Lance Steckler]

I know I am in Ihe minority but I like her voice as an announcer. She bring enthusiasm and she is good for the game, IMO. Yeah, the pitch calling and some of the exaggeration might bother the softball experts but for the casual viewers she keeps it exciting.

definately in the minority.

 

[Shawn]

Hello All.

I've been away from the Forum for a number of years,
but read this excerpt in a MLB context today,
and it sparked the question:

"Yamamoto releases the ball from a low arm slot and has exceptional carry on his fastball, meaning its pure backspin causes it to drop less than a batter expects, so it looks as if it were rising."

Have the NCAA Fastpitch Media come around on the actual physics of a "riseball", yet?
Or are Michelle Smith and the like still describing magic tricks...
I'm just curious.

Made this many years ago. The ball starts low then the path is creating a hump. It’s on its way down as it’s passing the hitter and into the glove.

 

[lostcreek1]

I have not studied this nearly as much as some of you. I do however believe it is impossible for a human to spin a ball fast enough to make it rise off of a level plane. Throw one at an upward trajectory that will drop less than a ball spinning in the opposite direction, yes.

 

[quincy]

Great a rise ball question, there has not been one on here for a while.

 

[Shawn]

The fact is the swing info at and after release when the ball is rising makes up your decision to swing. It’s an upside down curveball in the overhead throw.

UW Plain threw high drop balls often and the hitters swing over and under the pitch often. We know the drop has a curved path, so does the rise ball.

Zoom in on the Michelle
Smith or hair throwing the Rise ball. The ball humps over the bat as the ball is dropping.

 

[kibadbo]

Great a rise ball question, there has not been one on here for a while.

After we get rise balls sorted out, I think we should finally get around to discussing the merits of hello elbow.