Pitching how much is to much where to draw the line?

[Dabears17]

Does Elizabeth Hightower throw anything but a screwball? I agree that the motion is wonky, but three a game seems very low unless they're talking about much younger girls.

My daughter's rise motion is much more like a curve than a screw motion. Most who throw the screw tend to all off to the first base side after release.

Do you have video of Elizabeth's screwball?

The "traditional" screwball a lot of people teach causes issues. There is one that puts less stress on the arm. My DD was asked Feb 2021 to come out of retirement to be the team's P3. Against my better judgement when they wanted to teach her a screwball I let them and they had her throwing her it in practice a lot more than I thought they were. Wound up messing up the tendons in her shoulder so she is relegated to playing 1B 90pct of the time. They wound up picking up another lefty with a screwball so my DD dropped to the P4. Wound up screwing up the new lefty's arm as well.

The pitching experts I follow recommend the screwball as the 6th pitch to learn, after all the others are mastered. Not sure why they wanted to teach a screwball to a lefty with a beautiful drop, deadly change-up, and was just starting to learn the riseball.

 

[LEsoftballdad]

I do, actually. My daughter watched a game from the third row back in February, but the file extension isn't supported on this page.

 

[LEsoftballdad]

Best I can do is screenshot it and post a still.

 

[uncdrew]

Does Elizabeth Hightower throw anything but a screwball? I agree that the motion is wonky, but three a game seems very low unless they're talking about much younger girls.

My daughter's rise motion is much more like a curve than a screw motion. Most who throw the screw tend to all off to the first base side after release.

I think they fall off to the third base side, right? Or perhaps my daughter throws it backwards.

 

[uncdrew]

Best I can do is screenshot it and post a still.

Yes, they step towards first but after release have to kind of hop and catch themselves as their bodies fall towards third.

 

[LEsoftballdad]

It's a very easy pitch to spot from the motion. I don't think any other pitch has such a clearly defined fall-off.

 

[Dabears17]

Best I can do is screenshot it and post a still.

Hard to tell from a screen shot. Going somewhat off topic, as a batter my DD looks to read spins out of the hand and loves hitting pitchers who don't keep the pitching motion as similar as possible until just before pitch is released. Pitchers who throw their screw like that are a dead give away the screwball is coming.

 

[chinamigarden]

Why should there be ONE line for all pitchers? Every pitcher is different.

Pitcher parents complain that they don't get enough innings. Pitcher parents complain because they get too many innings.

1 pitcher on a team is too few
2 pitchers on a team is too many.

 

[lostcreek1]

1 pitcher on a team is too few
2 pitchers on a team is too many.

I would say if you are playing travel ball and playing 4-6 games on a Saturday you need at least 3 good pitchers and 1 that can fill in.

 

[gator5]

I know this is going to vary by age and opinions, so lets just say for 10u 12u 14u and up. Where is the limit that you would let a coach pitch your kid, lets just say in a one day tournament, or in a two day tournament. Seen a girl pithing in 10u this weekend that pitched 6 games in a 1 day tournament, I would not have allowed that, but not sure where that line should be or where some of you with DD's that are pitchers draw that line. I would think two games in one day would be as much as anyone should pitch. Not sure how that translates into a two day tournament maybe no more than three games in two day. At some point a parent has to draw the line somewhere.

I was generally okay with one game on Saturday and two on Sundays. I would not allow my daughter to pitch 6 games in a weekend.