A while back I put together a clip emphasizing overlap, the hips going forward while the arm is in the back swing. Sometimes you'll notice the arm will back swing and then the hips go forward. What's important is getting to the attack position. I end each clip with the girl in the attack position. That is where you need to be, most do it by having the back swing triggering the hips going forward. Make no mistake Mothgirl, you've got to get to the attack position.