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Blyleven's "12-6" curveball was pretty close to straight down..Koufax too.
Disagree. There's a big difference. Learning a curve before other pitches can lead to the wrist turning at release, making the ball spin sideways, bullet spin. Bullet spin does not move, it stays straight. While I can't understand people who think this is good, I know they are out there so go ahead. After all, what do I know? But, I take it one step further with my students, we work on a rise before a curve. Do do a curve first will make the rise even harder. But learning a rise first, makes the curve much easier.As far as the curve ball/Drop ball .. I really don't see an issue which order they are learned in.
Would there ever be a reason to throw bullet spin? IDK I am seriously asking.Disagree. There's a big difference. Learning a curve before other pitches can lead to the wrist turning at release, making the ball spin sideways, bullet spin. Bullet spin does not move, it stays straight. While I can't understand people who think this is good, I know they are out there so go ahead. After all, what do I know? But, I take it one step further with my students, we work on a rise before a curve. Do do a curve first will make the rise even harder. But learning a rise first, makes the curve much easier.
46 mph drop that starts low and about lands on the plate is pretty effective. I know a kid that does this and girls can't help swinging at it, and missing. The issue is when she misses her spot that 46 mph ball gets hammered.No offense but how effective will any of these pitches be in 14u if her fastball is only 46?
I just wasn’t sure that the combination of speed and the spin rate that somebody who throws that speed would be able to generate, would lead to effective pitches..46 mph drop that starts low and about lands on the plate is pretty effective. I know a kid that does this and girls can't help swinging at it, and missing. The issue is when she misses her spot that 46 mph ball gets hammered.
Would there ever be a reason to throw bullet spin? IDK I am seriously asking.
My DD is an inexperienced 14UB pitcher. She throws a drop fastball and a change. That's it. Her PC has at least these 2 in order. I can see that "heavy ball" thrown at times out there.
Bullet spin is not a heavy pitch; it gets crushed frequently. Is this the spin used to curve the ball ?
There are people who teach bullet spin but, I don't understand why. Personally, I don't understand putting a spin on the ball that makes movement impossible. Yet, there's people out there who think this is ok. And, for the record, I do realize that many of the college game's top pitchers throw bullet like spin on their riseball, and I think that's incorrect too. Bullet spin and throwing it high isn't a real riseball IMO.Would there ever be a reason to throw bullet spin? IDK I am seriously asking.
My DD is an inexperienced 14UB pitcher. She throws a drop fastball and a change. That's it. Her PC has at least these 2 in order. I can see that "heavy ball" thrown at times out there.
Bullet spin is not a heavy pitch; it gets crushed frequently. Is this the spin used to curve the ball ?