Yes, we joined and were promised pitching time. 9.3 innings out of 118, I guess you could call that inadequate. No I was not asking for 50% of the pitching time but we discussed it before hand and was told that yes she would get some. She feels that the coach doesn't like her because she subs her out with a 10u player. Little coaching, lot of yelling.
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Yes, we joined and were promised pitching time. 9.3 innings out of 118, I guess you could call that inadequate. No I was not asking for 50% of the pitching time but we discussed it before hand and was told that yes she would get some. She feels that the coach doesn't like her because she subs her out with a 10u player. Little coaching, lot of yelling.
That's my dilemma, I want to avoid that type of reputation.
I'm not expecting a lot of pitching time on the 14U team. Player development and overall improvement of the game. We'll keep working on the pitching and hopefully work our way into the pitching rotation.
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I hear ya. No matter how justified a move is there will be people who think you're a team hopper. Plus you can't control what the coach says afterwards. I like to think if it only happens once it doesn't have too much of an impact. Still, not sure it's worth it this late in the season.
You have to decide if the coach has your DDs best interest in mind. If not, then walk.
It's thrown out all the time that you have to be loyal to your team, that's a two way street. Being loyal doesn't mean being taken advantage of.
We were in almost the exact same situation. She had pitched 11 partial innings, the #1 pitcher was over 50, the #2 coaches daughter over 50 and the #4 pitcher 4 innings. Twice I was called over mid tournament because she was finally put in and the coach had to ask what pitches she knows. That was 6 months in.
When your DD asks after a game, why the #1 pitcher was used in pool play against a team that is lucky to get a girl on base, what do you tell her?
A coach has to do their best with all the players, when they don't, it's obvious. It's also obvious when a coach is fair and the problem is the player or parents.
But in the end, do a self check, and do what's right for your DD.
It's thrown out all the time that you have to be loyal to your team, that's a two way street. Being loyal doesn't mean being taken advantage of.
We were in almost the exact same situation. She had pitched 11 partial innings, the #1 pitcher was over 50, the #2 coaches daughter over 50 and the #4 pitcher 4 innings. Twice I was called over mid tournament because she was finally put in and the coach had to ask what pitches she knows. That was 6 months in.
When your DD asks after a game, why the #1 pitcher was used in pool play against a team that is lucky to get a girl on base, what do you tell her?
A coach has to do their best with all the players, when they don't, it's obvious. It's also obvious when a coach is fair and the problem is the player or parents.
But in the end, do a self check, and do what's right for your DD.
A lot of reasons for coaches decisions are because of parental pressures. Coaches get texts day and night from parents with questions and complaints that often dictate decisions when a roster is so low. Is this right? No but it happens. Parents want trophies so decisions are made in pool play to help position the team for an easier road on Sunday.
WWID in your situation, I would have my DD talk to the coach about pitching time and see his response. I would be present for the talk but let her speak, watch the coach's reaction when your DD asks the questions. Is he listening or is he rolling his eyes or any other tell tale non verbal. What answer does he give to her.
First year 12U C my DD sat the bench 2 straight weekends not even a courtesy run opportunity. My DD went to practice and asked the coach if he planned on playing her at all this upcoming weekend and why he didn't play her the previous 2 weekends at all, both of which we went 0-3. After she talked to the coach she played more, because he noticed she cared. Yes she did this under my advice but I didn't ask the coach those questions. We could have walked and left them with 9 but this softball world is small and if you have 2 weekends left stick it out, thank the coaches after the world series and if they ask if you plan on returning be honest.
WWID in your situation, I would have my DD talk to the coach about pitching time and see his response. I would be present for the talk but let her speak, watch the coach's reaction when your DD asks the questions. Is he listening or is he rolling his eyes or any other tell tale non verbal. What answer does he give to her.
First year 12U C my DD sat the bench 2 straight weekends not even a courtesy run opportunity. My DD went to practice and asked the coach if he planned on playing her at all this upcoming weekend and why he didn't play her the previous 2 weekends at all, both of which we went 0-3. After she talked to the coach she played more, because he noticed she cared. Yes she did this under my advice but I didn't ask the coach those questions. We could have walked and left them with 9 but this softball world is small and if you have 2 weekends left stick it out, thank the coaches after the world series and if they ask if you plan on returning be honest.
A lot of reasons for coaches decisions are because of parental pressures. Coaches get texts day and night from parents with questions and complaints that often dictate decisions when a roster is so low. Is this right? No but it happens. Parents want trophies so decisions are made in pool play to help position the team for an easier road on Sunday.
WWID in your situation, I would have my DD talk to the coach about pitching time and see his response. I would be present for the talk but let her speak, watch the coach's reaction when your DD asks the questions. Is he listening or is he rolling his eyes or any other tell tale non verbal. What answer does he give to her.
First year 12U C my DD sat the bench 2 straight weekends not even a courtesy run opportunity. My DD went to practice and asked the coach if he planned on playing her at all this upcoming weekend and why he didn't play her the previous 2 weekends at all, both of which we went 0-3. After she talked to the coach she played more, because he noticed she cared. Yes she did this under my advice but I didn't ask the coach those questions. We could have walked and left them with 9 but this softball world is small and if you have 2 weekends left stick it out, thank the coaches after the world series and if they ask if you plan on returning be honest.
WWID in your situation, I would have my DD talk to the coach about pitching time and see his response. I would be present for the talk but let her speak, watch the coach's reaction when your DD asks the questions. Is he listening or is he rolling his eyes or any other tell tale non verbal. What answer does he give to her.
First year 12U C my DD sat the bench 2 straight weekends not even a courtesy run opportunity. My DD went to practice and asked the coach if he planned on playing her at all this upcoming weekend and why he didn't play her the previous 2 weekends at all, both of which we went 0-3. After she talked to the coach she played more, because he noticed she cared. Yes she did this under my advice but I didn't ask the coach those questions. We could have walked and left them with 9 but this softball world is small and if you have 2 weekends left stick it out, thank the coaches after the world series and if they ask if you plan on returning be honest.
The tournament had some better competition with one "A" class team and several other reputable "B" class teams. It felt more like a job interview for the two pitchers who pitched the whole tournament, BTW coaches daughters.
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Sounds like a bridge in desperate need of burning to me. Team hopping from a dumpster fire team is actually viewed as a positive in my book. Any coaches that accept 4 pitchers on their teams and then don't pitch them are dumpster fire setters.
There are A LOT of teams out there that have no redeeming qualities and do not deserve to be in operation, if you happen to make a bad choice and find yourself on one why on earth would you stay with it? Pitching your pitchers is kind of the hallmark of a decent team, accepting pitchers on to your team and then not pitching them is one of the things that tells you jackasses are running things. Do jackasses deserve loyalty? How much is losing a pitcher who doesn't get to pitch really affecting the team anyway?
I wouldn't just leave this team I would be getting my money's worth on the way out.
There are A LOT of teams out there that have no redeeming qualities and do not deserve to be in operation, if you happen to make a bad choice and find yourself on one why on earth would you stay with it? Pitching your pitchers is kind of the hallmark of a decent team, accepting pitchers on to your team and then not pitching them is one of the things that tells you jackasses are running things. Do jackasses deserve loyalty? How much is losing a pitcher who doesn't get to pitch really affecting the team anyway?
I wouldn't just leave this team I would be getting my money's worth on the way out.
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