Need help from the pros on developing a riseball pitcher.

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sluggers

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May 26, 2008
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This is going to sound crazy:

This kid throws a riseball as her "normal" pitch. That is, if she is throwing without thinking, it is riseball after riseball. She warms up throwing riseballs...not because anyone tells her to. It is just what she throws.

If she pitches slowly, she loses the spin. But, as soon as she goes full throttle, the ball starts jumping.

She gets decent spin...perhaps 9-1 or 8-2. She is young and developing, but she can occasionally throw the RB for a strike.

She has difficulty throwing a normal, straight fastball. She can't dependably throw the FB for a strike. The only way for her to do it is to slow way down.

The usual situation then is that the batters eventually lay off the high stuff. The walks start happening, and then she slows down...she loses the backspin and the ball goes over the middle of the plate.

She has a decent change...it is a work in progress, but she is getting it.

She is in the weird situation of needing a fastball for a second pitch.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks.
 
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Jun 18, 2012
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In my non-pro opinion... I think it is natural for those who started with palm-up IR to learn a rise early on. I sure as heck wouldn't damage that natural ability in her. Can't she simply goof around with various grips and releases to aquire a sort of fastball-drop-ball?
 
Jun 19, 2014
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Raleigh,NC
I am not an expert and you may think I am crazy to even suggest this...but, maybe get her to work on a curve ball. I think this would work with the girls natural tendencies.
 
Jul 22, 2015
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Certainly not a pro, but I would begin work on a roll-over drop. Let her know you aren't changing her mechanics, just learning a new pitch. Even if she doesn't develop great break on the pitch she should be able to at least flatten the pitch out at full speed and keep it lower. Plus, you're not changing her natural release you're just giving her a new pitch to work on, which may be easier for her mentally.
 
May 30, 2013
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Not a Pro but...
I would guess that she is “naturally” getting significant cupping of the wrist at release.
To learn an IR fastball, or better yet, a drop;
get her to learn to feel the difference between a a thumb elevated/to the side cupped release and a thumb forward/down release.
I would try to accomplish through LOTS of alternating reps.
I think the key is getting her to trust the process and focus upon the “feeling” and not the short term results.
But that is very hard to do.
 
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