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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
    The problem is that the typical "bat-lag" approach includes pushing the hands forward, which moves the center of rotation for the barrel, and may make it more difficult to achieve bat-forearm alignment. Early barrel speed and a deep turn leads to the position you see Khris Davis in (bottom right in the pic above). You can't get there if you lag and push.

    I'm not sure how much velocity penalty there is for getting to alignment early and carrying that velocity through contact, but I suspect that's a better trade-off than being late. One thing I also see with hitters (including my DD) who aren't getting to alignment before contact, is that the hands often are moving left around the body and pulling the barrel laterally across the ball during contact, which costs power.
    Deep acceleration, Early barrel speed and a deep turn (rotational point)





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    Oh I got it Pattar. I'll post in a new thread.
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    This is a swing where the lead arm and barrel don't align at contact.

    Last edited by Shawn; 03-15-2019 at 04:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    This is swing where the lead arm and barrel don't align at contact.

    Based on where the hands are, and the position of the barrel, I would assume this was a push swing. Do you have video of the full swing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
    Based on where the hands are, and the position of the barrel, I would assume this was a push swing. Do you have video of the full swing?
    No, I just happened to find that pic. She might be "short" to the ball (inside the ball) vs quick to the pitch plane (early batspeed, deep HPP).
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    You have to remember as well that most MLB videos/pics you are going to pull off the web are going to be of balls that are hit well.....

    Edit: Also I am sure you can find well hit balls that don't have this orientation as sometimes adjustments need to be made
    which might compromise optimal bat speed in order to actually get the barrel to the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pattar View Post
    You have to remember as well that most MLB videos/pics you are going to pull off the web are going to be of balls that are hit well.....

    Edit: Also I am sure you can find well hit balls that don't have this orientation as sometimes adjustments need to be made
    which might compromise optimal bat speed in order to actually get the barrel to the ball.
    For sure. Even good hitters have less-than-ideal swings pretty regularly. Getting the stick on the rock is still job #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
    For sure. Even good hitters have less-than-ideal swings pretty regularly. Getting the stick on the rock is still job #1.
    As far as rocks go, I think the rock at the end of string has something to do with what you see at contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn View Post
    As far as rocks go, I think the rock at the end of string has something to do with what you see at contact.
    For sure, and it's a stronger force with a baseball bat than it is a softball bat.

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