Turning the barrel

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May 12, 2016
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Hey julray, first post here, but have been reading the site for a little bit, and have come to get the feel that some are trying to twist the camera lens to intentionally throw things out of focus...just saying.

To be fair, I'm a big "turn the barrel" guy, and have been for a long time. That said, let me just ask you this...are you able to turn your hands without turning your wrist and/or forearms. Can you turn just your forearms without turning your wrists or hands? IOWs, please don't get caught up in the minutia of what little bone may be do what, but rather try to understand the overall concept of getting the barrel turning back behind the hitter, and creating a barrel path the is "behind and through" the ball, rather than "down and to" it.

If you copy her barrel path to get "behind and through" the ball no, it would not. But if you simply drop the barrel flat behind the hitters shoulder, and then sweep the barrel "around" instead of "out" from the body, then yes, there is a good chance that a hitter could then "cast" the swing out wide swing around her body, and not "out from it".

JMHO, and what do I know, YMMV. Good luck to you, and your DD.

Can you explain "out" from the body? I understand the concept of turning the barrel. Makes sense for sure. Just having some trouble relating what is being instructed in some of these videos
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Can you explain "out" from the body? I understand the concept of turning the barrel. Makes sense for sure. Just having some trouble relating what is being instructed in some of these videos

You shouldn't be "turning the barrel" all the way to the ball. That's why you see so many of these kids with release & lack-of-extension issues.

In the GIF below, consider the "around" portion to be "turning the barrel", and the "along" portion to be "out from".

Around_Along_Ex1.gif



Around_Along_Ex1x.gif
 
Jun 17, 2009
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Jan 6, 2009
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Sure it is Shawn. The swing is in a sense 'rotational' to 'linear'. There was a decent discussion on it at BBF at one point.

I have no problem with you calling is out from the body. Yes the swing gets thrown out from the body or you get off the merry-go-round. So I have no problem with saying this swing is out from the body when discussing the actions being shown above. In the clips in the thread I posted swinging out from the body has a different meaning.

Here's a thought, Mankin says you rotate all the way through/to contact maintaining BHT or a pull all the way to contact. Does this mean never getting off the merry-go-round? No rotational to linear action?
 
Jan 6, 2009
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Shawn, lead arm pronation in the swing is not “late”, but “early” … just as Donnie has documented. However, acknowledging that may have folks accepting that the lead arm is largely involved in the initial arcing of the barrel … as Donnie had also documented … and not due to a rear arm yanking backwards mechanic as demonstrated here …



So you disagree with the action? Or just how the kid is doing it?

I think of the two actions as the gears shown before. Done separately they don't represent the swing well, although when you swivel/snap or pronate whatever you want to call it, the swing looks normal with the lowerbody/hips combined with the upper gear. They have to synced together to make the swing look normal.
 

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