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Oct 11, 2010
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1st year DD basketball we won a game and players celebrating. What is going on? We never won a a game before.

Playoffs come, that is the only game we won so we are playing undefeated top seed.

DW this unfair, I do not know what to tell her. Hard to believe but we were destroyed.
 
Apr 16, 2013
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Here in NC USSSA, teams usually start off divided into brackets based upon knowledge of the team. They're rated "blue, red, green", etc. However, everyone knows which is the higher level bracket. From there it's as a previous poster mentioned. After pool play, highest level team faces lowest level. Mid level face each other, and so forth. All teams try to save their best pitcher for the last game. Sometimes this leads to upsets. We've played average teams with an amazing pitcher, only to defeat them because they were saving that amazing pitcher for later games. It's a chess game.
 
Jun 29, 2013
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I've seen it in other sports, where the 1 seeds play the 1's, 2 seeds play the 2's, etc. The caveat is only the 1 seeds can win the tournament, and if you're a 3 or 4 seed from your pool your final finish will be lower than the higher seeds. Example -if you're team comes out of pool play as the #4 seed and there are 64 teams in your age bracket, you play only the other#4 teams in bracket play but can finish no higher than 49th. If you're a 1 seed, you only play the other 1 seeds but can finish no lower than 16th.
Each system has it's advantages. It does put a lot of pressure on everyone in pool play and the kids on the end of the bench typically don't play until bracket play, which is weird for those of us from softball.
 
Jun 12, 2015
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It doesn't make much sense to me if they are in the same double elimination bracket. I'm kind of surprised this TD did it more than once. I was a TD for 3 years and if anything deviated from the norm, I heard about it from many, many folks.

If they were split up then I get it, but to be in the same bracket makes no sense. If they're in the same bracket, the higher seeds have earned the easier road in the bracket.

Just one double elimination bracket. It would make sense if it sorted to silver and gold.
 

J.Galt

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Feb 8, 2019
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If you're going to win the bracket, you have to beat everyone, why does it matter when you eliminate them?
 

J.Galt

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Feb 8, 2019
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Ever try to follow Triple Crown's Nationals brackets?

Doesn't TCS seed the brackets based on where teams finish in each pool?

PGF seeds brackets based on a ping pong ball draw.
Seems that way nobody can get butthurt on who they play when
 
Jun 12, 2015
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If you're going to win the bracket, you have to beat everyone, why does it matter when you eliminate them?

That's actually not true. If there are 20 teams in a tournament you might have to beat 5 or 6 of them. Anyway, my question is about the logic behind that set up, for my own information. It's not a complaint.
 

J.Galt

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Feb 8, 2019
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So the opposing way of looking at it is to make it easier for the good teams to last longer?
 

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