Legal or Not - (Realize this has been a hot topic of late in separate threads)

[The Man In Blue]

I don't see a second push. To me this looks like a leap. Her front foot plants only slightly after the back foot lands.

So you are saying it is not a leap.

 

[The Man In Blue]

It is illegal and pitchers have been doing this for a long time. I still question whether it is a competitive advantage when done in the way the video shows. When you take the giant leap and replant like the men do that is another thing entirely.

What about an advantage that isn’t competitive? Is it illegal then?

 

[Shawn]

What about an advantage that isn’t competitive? Is it illegal then?

That’s kinda like the pitchers who leap and the not so good pitchers who lose contact because of poor use of the body usage/mechanics. The poor pitcher wasn’t gaining an advantage. They just loss contact.

Of course, now it’s legal to lose contact.

 

[_MIA_]

What about an advantage that isn’t competitive? Is it illegal then?

People only complain about bad calls,rules being broken, etc when they are being negatively effected by it. In my 40+ years of watching diamond sports I’ve yet to see a person whine about the umpire when a call goes for their team..”Good gracious Maud, that pitch to our little pride and joy was better than grits on my birthday. Hey Blue, that pitch to Susie Q was a strike. I hope you get that right next time and ring her up faster than I can skin a rattlesnake..”

 

[LEsoftballdad]

People only complain about bad calls,rules being broken, etc when they are being negatively effected by it. In my 40+ years of watching diamond sports I’ve yet to see a person whine about the umpire when a call goes for their team..”Good gracious Maud, that pitch to our little pride and joy was better than grits on my birthday. Hey Blue, that pitch to Susie Q was a strike. I hope you get that right next time and ring her up faster than I can skin a rattlesnake..”

You went full-on country boy with that comment. Oklahoma is rubbing off on you.

 

[_MIA_]

You went full-on country boy with that comment. Oklahoma is rubbing off on you.

That was the intent..glad I pulled it off (I have lived below the Mason-Dixon line for more than half my life..)

 

[LEsoftballdad]

That was the intent..glad I pulled it off (I have lived below the Mason-Dixon line for more than half my life..)

In fairness, I think everyone complains about Angel Hernandez, regardless of whether he's good or bad for their team.

 

[_MIA_]

In fairness, I think everyone complains about Angel Hernandez, regardless of whether he's good or bad for their team.

He’s a caricature at this point..he doesn’t count.

 

[Sonerai]

You must be an umpire

Not an umpire I just don't see how you can push again when the back foot lands almost simultaneously with the front foot. I slowed the video down to .25 and watched a few times.

 

[earlg3]

Breaking the rules to get a competitive advantage is cheating, and cheating is bad. Whether "the men do this already" or not is irrelevant, and men's fast pitch should hardly be the standard for multitudes of reasons.

Umpires not cracking down on cheating for whatever reason (incompetence, laziness, not wanting to slow the game down) simply hurts the integrity of the game, whether it's the likely outcome or not.