Should coaches or catchers call pitches?

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May 24, 2013
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same logic as to why courtesy runners should get runs scored when they score credited to them. base running is a skill and often requires them to steal and make decisions on the bases. they definitely need to receive credit when scoring a run. maybe a new stat catagory for this needs to be created to properly give credit to the kids who do this as they deserve to be recognized for it.

Who isn't crediting a CR for scoring a run? GameChanger credits the runner than scored the run.
 

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Jun 29, 2021
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How about the pitcher, why is she left out of this discussion?
My DD is a first-year 16U pitcher who calls her own game at the varsity level. Her sister is the catcher, who also plays 18U for a high-level travel program and is playing D3 in college. My pitcher's logic is she's the one who has to throw the pitch, not the coach or catcher. And, it says winning or losing pitcher in the box score, not losing coach or catcher. She's trying to get her current TB coach to let her call her games. In fact, one of the reasons she left her previous team, other than the coach being a low-life thug, was they never allowed the pitchers to shake off the pitch call.
 
May 24, 2013
12,461
113
So Cal
My DD is a first-year 16U pitcher who calls her own game at the varsity level. Her sister is the catcher, who also plays 18U for a high-level travel program and is playing D3 in college. My pitcher's logic is she's the one who has to throw the pitch, not the coach or catcher. And, it says winning or losing pitcher in the box score, not losing coach or catcher. She's trying to get her current TB coach to let her call her games. In fact, one of the reasons she left her previous team, other than the coach being a low-life thug, was they never allowed the pitchers to shake off the pitch call.

How does the pitcher signal the pitch to the catcher?
 
Oct 14, 2019
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same logic as to why courtesy runners should get runs scored when they score credited to them. base running is a skill and often requires them to steal and make decisions on the bases. they definitely need to receive credit when scoring a run. maybe a new stat catagory for this needs to be created to properly give credit to the kids who do this as they deserve to be recognized for it.
their main skill is being the last prior out
 
May 17, 2012
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I was asking about a pitcher who is making the initial call of the pitch.

Well the pitcher calling the pitch initially makes the conversation shorter. The pitcher can also shake off to get the pitch they want.

In the end it's the same result.
 

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