Another vote for ditching the flip. However, if she feels like she's getting a feel for it I'd try and tweak it a little to see if it helps. Most girls I've seen who had a consistently good flip (not that many btw) didn't actually even throw a true flip but added a bit of spin to it and released it somewhat out of the pinky side of the hand.16u lefty struggling to develop a consistent change up. Has a good curve and drop but struggling to find any consistency with a change. Currently throwing a flip.
Any advice
A video would be greatAll good advice. We’ve ditched it and worked out way back to it. She’s tried others with just no luck. I have noticed she throws it best when she goes hard though. I appreciate all of the advice. I’ll get her to try the things mentioned.
I believe this is like the change up my DD throws. To be honest I’m not really sure because she came up with it on her own after watching a bunch of YouTube videos and experimenting. She makes a circle with index and thumb and tries to “throw the circle” to the catcher she says. Her spin on it is 12-6 like her fastball. Is that how the horseshoe spins or is it reverse like the flip change?I personally love horse shoe and have one student that throws it. Most of my students formerly threw the flip. Now they turn their hand like the flip but stop it at the back hip, making sure no flip and all threw it better day one. Basically the flip without flipping. Local D1 pitcher throws it