Pure barrels or cut!

[radness]

You keep referring to this question I didn't answer, I have no idea what you are talking about, as I previously mentioned in a post, ask your question.

Outside my tunnel.. I having a discussion based on Q's question it has nothing to do with my hitting beliefs or preferences. He asked what was wrong with the swing, I responded.

Not a big fan of passive aggressiveness... and I am not bent, just tired of the all fodder. Do you actually have anything valuable to add to the thread besides this crusade of righteous that you are currently on.

FTR I prefer Wonderbar.. are you you ok with that, or is that not open minded enough for you?

(smiley face to soften the post up)

Been completely upfront.
Zero read between the lines posts!
No need for any aggresiveness in discussions.
Read back you'll find the pleasantly asked questions.

 

[lhowser]

Julray says:
" This is not useful content .. you can always PM me and we can chat. But right now I am discussing Q's question.. try to have an open mind about that"

Good point. Best to filter personal back and forth to PM's because there is a lot of good content on this thread. The convo on cutting vs pure bat and the related hitting down versus turning the barrel deep and working up is very good.

I personally have successfully taught a good number of players to TTB, get on the path, and work through. It always seemed like a big improvement over what has been taught by many (swing down, hands to the ball, shift your weight etc).

But I do see some convincing evidence in the video that working down while turning to and thru can result in the appearance of TTB. Depends on what you are looking for.

My DD has been a very successful hitter, Now entering Junior year at D2 college. Rarely almost never K's. hit's line drives, good average in the low 3's but I feel there are too many miss-hits. A little lack of power (Maybe 5 HR's a year), and we see some chicken wings. Sooooo...we will play with the main premise of this post and see what happens here during off season..

 

[Shawn]

As far as what is wrong with the swing, she is getting into the front leg early as well.

 

[julray]

Julray respectful question please...
Are you noticing the several posters who are all acknowledging there is a disconnect from either...
1. What the pro's say or do
not being the same.
2. The words meaning different things. Need to be explained. Then get explained differently.
3. What pro to watch? They are not doing the same things.

You have made your point about watch them repeatedly.
Saying try to understand the pro's concept.
The feedback is now...
The writing on THE wall.
Seems you want to reiterate your point down to the ball down to the ball down to the ball and people have shared their perspective viewpoints and opinion they are equally as valid . Not certain your gathering that is the answer. So it's just a simple question are you acknowledging that people see this completely different than yourself and is that okay?

My apologies for not answering these directly, FYI I already answered some of these questions in thread...

1. Acknowledged and disagree as previously mentioned
2. What words? Need to be more specific here
3. Certain body movements exist in all swings of the best in the game. I previously mentioned this as well. For example, FYB sequence and posture. Most of us all agree on this.. of course there may be an outlier and some batters may have less or greater posture, but it exists.

Regarding "down to".. I don't know what you mean by "You have made your point about watch them repeatedly." Watch them repeatedly.. what do you mean by that? I advised others to pick up a bat and try the "down to" motion with good sequence and posture instead of immediately disregarding, I don't know what you mean by "watch them repeatedly.

There is confusion regarding what the pros say and what everybody sees in their swing, like I said many times I have been there as well. I(and I know I'm not the only one) am just trying to bridge the gap between what the best in the world say, do, practice and demo vs their game swing. People can do what they like, they can believe what they want and they can teach their DD's how they please. Many people on here have taught their DD's TTB and they have much success.. I've congratulated them, followed their progress and I am very happy for them.

The point I am making is just because you(not you personally) don't see or understand what the pros say/demo regarding down to doesn't mean they are all a bunch of dummies who don't have a clue. Just trying to convince those people to take a closer look, don't just discount them, if possible, pick up a bat and try yourself, might be surprised. I surprised myself, and I know I'm not the only one.

 

[radness]

My apologies for not answering these directly, FYI I already answered some of these questions in thread...

1. Acknowledged and disagree as previously mentioned
2. What words? Need to be more specific here
3. Certain body movements exist in all swings of the best in the game. I previously mentioned this as well. For example, FYB sequence and posture. Most of us all agree on this.. of course there may be an outlier and some batters may have less or greater posture, but it exists.

Regarding "down to".. I don't know what you mean by "You have made your point about watch them repeatedly." Watch them repeatedly.. what do you mean by that? I advised others to pick up a bat and try the "down to" motion with good sequence and posture instead of immediately disregarding, I don't know what you mean by "watch them repeatedly.

There is confusion regarding what the pros say and what everybody sees in their swing, like I said many times I have been there as well. I(and I know I'm not the only one) am just trying to bridge the gap between what the best in the world say, do, practice and demo vs their game swing. People can do what they like, they can believe what they want and they can teach their DD's how they please. Many people on here have taught their DD's TTB and they have much success.. I've congratulated them, followed their progress and I am very happy for them.

The point I am making is just because you(not you personally) don't see or understand what the pros say/demo regarding down to doesn't mean they are all a bunch of dummies who don't have a clue. Just trying to convince those people to take a closer look, don't just discount them, if possible, pick up a bat and try yourself, might be surprised. I surprised myself, and I know I'm not the only one.

what words you ask....since you've missed much of this....
Leave that to your discovery process of
re-reading the thread.
There are other valid view points you may want to be aware of. They pertain to hitting so they may interest you.
Enjoy!

 

[Work=wins]

I do like the palm ‘up’ method mentioned by FP26.

Can help a player realize some things.

 

[julray]

what words you ask....since you've missed much of this....
Leave that to your discovery process of
re-reading the thread.
There are other valid view points you may want to be aware of. They pertain to hitting so they may interest you.
Enjoy!

I growing bored of this conversation. I’m not going to re-read the thread, you need to elaborate on your questions because you are being too vague. How can I possibly know what “words” you are referring to? Be specific so we can move this thread along instead of playing a guessing game.

 

[julray]

I do like the palm ‘up’ method mentioned by FP26.

Can help a player realize some things.

Can you elaborate how to teach getting palm up early while being “down to”?

 

[radness]

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I growing bored of this conversation. I’m not going to re-read the thread, you need to elaborate on your questions because you are being too vague. How can I possibly know what “words” you are referring to? Be specific so we can move this thread along instead of playing a guessing game.

'Swing down'
Bad communication verbage.
( not talking about physical mechanic)
Short version reasons.
Needs to much explanation.
Gets interpreted differently.


Also asked this.
What do you think.
Should everyone swing the same?
Can they?
Do you think all bodies can reproduce the exact same swing?
Anyone like to share on this.

 

[julray]

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'Swing down'
Bad communication verbage.
( not talking about physical mechanic)
Short version reasons.
Needs to much explanation.
Gets interpreted differently.


Also asked this.
What do you think.
Should everyone swing the same?
Can they?
Do you think all bodies can reproduce the exact same swing?
Anyone like to share on this.

Swing down and the way it’s communicated... Agreed, I’ve already said the same thing many times on this site and in this thread.

I think I’ve answered a flavour of this question in a previous post To you in a the last couple of pages. Everybody does not “swing” the same way, that’s obvious... but there are components which are constant. Generally speaking those very same components are what most people on this site advise a new member trying to help his/her own DD. For example, sequence.