Lower Body (no stride)

[Work=wins]

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The attack posture isn't an absolute.

Looked at a few of Brett’s swings. He definitely gets to a 50/50. No question. When viewing hitters a side view is best to see where they are balance wise. This view ^^^ can be deceiving.

 

[Shawn]

Looked at a few of Brett’s swings. He definitely gets to a 50/50. No question. When viewing hitters a side view is best to see where they are balance wise. This view ^^^ can be deceiving.

I'm with you, I prefer the attack posture. The attack posture isn't an absolute though. I have seen many college fastpitch hitters posted with the same posture as the girl.

 

[Work=wins]

I'm with you, I prefer the attack posture. The attack posture isn't an absolute though. I have seen many college fastpitch hitters posted with the same posture as the girl.

Gotcha. I think our wires crossed when you mentioned ‘attack posture’. I should have mentioned balance 50/50 before the launch of the swing. My bad.

 

[julray]

Lots of good discussion on here.. but when it comes down to it, what I see I like in regard to lower body mechanics and how they work with the core in this swing. For a no stride hitter I see a lot of similarities with MLB'ers who have a no stride style. Balance, dragging the bat.. whatever, you guys can discuss this all day long, not that I don't appreciate it, but not the point of this thread. If I can get my DD to successfully model this young ladies lower body mechanics, I will be happy and she will be a better hitter. I already mentioned I'm not crazy about how she gets over her back foot, not saying that it's not effective for her, just not something I would ask my DD to model. The comment about her being a slapper makes 0 difference to me.. good lower body mechanics for a no stride swing IMO..

Edit I misquoted W=w and removed my question

 

[Cannonball]

julray, I'm just going to throw this out. If you see some qualities in that young ladies swing that you want to coach into your dd's swing, I say get after it. In the end, you dd will discover some stuff out on her own and her swing has a real chance of being an exceptional swing. I started BB off with no stride and used the very old Pujols clips for her to see and try to emulate. Naturally, she never really ever match Pujols but she ended up having a real nice swing. All of the discussion here can help out a lot but the problem often is, when thinking about the next change or improvement a parent wants to see in their dd, is where to start. You have a nice example for a start. Having a goal is great. As I always say, if you aim at nothing, you'll hit it.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

My last post was a tad harsh. Not my intent. Apologies. Personally I like to help the weaker. The talented players don’t need as much help. They figure a lot out on their own. In the ego trip of coaching it is definitely exhilarating to help players improve. Not take credit. Just help them. Especially the ones others cast aside or ‘cut’.

It doesn’t matter who you ‘hit’ with or helped. What matters is the content you bring to your posts. I won’t judge you off of anything else. The post I quoted sounded to me like a cop out. I could have interpreted wrong. But I only go off what I read and see.

Hey MB ... you need to stop copping out .

 

[Work=wins]

You must be bored.

 

[Cannonball]

No worries. This is the problem with a lot of discussions on here. People have different fundamentals that they believe in. It can get smoky and hard to breath fast. Especially for Dads that are learning.

With this being said. I believe in emulating MLB HOF hitters. The Hanson principle if you will. The Barry video I posted awhile ago is just one of a ton of things that I use to base my teachings around. Hitting gurus, especially ones that don’t really have a proven sustainable track record is not something I would prescribe to anyone. I would consider it if their track record was consistent and proven.As well as their pattern matching the best. Very few ‘gurus’ can show this. Everything I teach is based off of what I see/hear/learn from an MLBer that has proven he has knowledge of his swing and how it works. Or a coach that has a proven track record.

As with everything I learn. I always question ‘why’. It’s the only way to have great brakes when bad info is in play. If you believe everything you read. You will never find a good foundation to teach mechanics. There is a lot of bad info out there. A LOT.

I’m sorry if I come off harsh at times. I just don’t take teaching kids or my job as a coach/mentor lightly.

I missed this post. I know several of the posters in this thread and have known them for decades. I'd say that they all believe in the Hanson Principle and do their best to produce hitters who match. I also do so and have been friends with Mark Hanson for a very very long time. Naturally, every coach believes that they are doing their best for their hitters and that they have drills, strategies, ... that will enable them to have their hitters match the high level pattern. W=W, I somewhat agree with the guru statement. I don't know anyone in this thread that pretends to be a guru and so, don't know if you were referencing any of them. I've seen students for a few posters in this thread. Per myself, I posted my work here and elsewhere many times. Mostly, I posted my dd from the time she was 10 until she graduated college. Then again, I'm an ex expert so I've never pretended to be a guru. Any comments I post here or elsewhere are time proven in both baseball and softball. I teach one swing for both and don't believe that there is any difference per sport. I've been through most of the gurus. I think that there are posters here that will tell you that we have been both friend and antagonists over the years and yet, we all seem to have come to a better understanding of what we all believe.

Darrell Butler

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Would I be correct in saying that your idea of balance is that if I applied a force to a "balanced" object which is offset from the COM, then the object would not rotate or if it did rotate,
once the force is removed the object would return to its position before the force was applied?

You are over complicating something that is quite simple ... yet important IMO.

See if this dumbs down the notion of dynamic balance a bit.

 

[_MIA_]

You are over complicating something that is quite simple ... yet important IMO.

See if this dumbs down the notion of dynamic balance a bit.

I am not overcomplicating anything..I know what being balanced FEELS like from an athletic perspective. What is overcomplicating things
imo, and this happens a lot in hitting discussion, is using words that can be described using concrete concepts in physics/mathematics when a mathematical
model of the system is available, to a system where no such models exist, e.g. a human being hitting. Sure, in some cases you can probably
say a hitter is "unbalanced" and it would likely satisfy the mathematical description of such a system state. However in many circumstances whether
a hitter is truly unbalanced or not is irrelevant as it is more important to know whether the hitter FEELS like he or she is unbalanced.