DD's Swing evaluation

[Work=wins]

Why hasn't the OP chimed in once to ask or say anything???

The girls tee swing is a push. Braun is turning the barrel. His core supports his hand path . There is a transition or change of direction . Like a whip. Hosmers swing is the same as Brauns. Transition , change of direction , whip.

The girl is ' learning ' I guess. But what she is doing is nothing more then turning her body to get the bat to contact ala Epstein 2013. I think he has evolved since . Does anyone not see the deltoid drill in her tee swing? Bat is glued to the body for along time . Just because it's in a higher slot doesn't mean that the intent has changed. Her body sets up her swing. She has a body path . Not a hand path . Her hands are along for the ride .

Learning to ' turn the barrel ' is about using your hands properly so your body can support the hands to deliver the barrel. Why do you think these pros work on ' hands ' drills. Hosmer and Braun summed it up nicely. Their routines are a ' hands ' drill. Then a ' body ' drill that will support their hands . If you sync the girl and Braun it won't match.

Lurkers, If you want to learn how to turn the barrel correctly . Look up 'educated hands' on your search feature. This will get you going ... you will find that turning the barrel is a result not a desired action.

Good morning RD

 

[rdbass]

Because the girl in the gif that everyone is debating about isn’t the OP’S DD......


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Come on leave him alone he's on a roll......HaHa..

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Are they doing the same exact drill with the same exact purpose/goal? I imagine not, right? So yes, I agree the (ball) setup is the same but execution is not, largely because the girl is focused on one thing in the drill, staying on top of high pitch. Braun is further along in the feels he is trying to attain. Girl is learning how to take the barrel to a high pitch. MLBer going through a full sequence of TTB/launch-feels. So to that extent comparing the two is really apples to oranges, and focusing on the differences between the two is fine but also largely beside-the-point.

I believe Shaun's initial concern was that the drill broke up the sequence. To that extent the drill is related to Braun's drill. The execution is very different. I highly favor what Braun is doing here in terms of this isolation-type drill. The girl bypasses proper torso usage ... which is not a great idea imo and is not what I want my hitters doing. If her spinning shoulders approach works for others then good for them ... just not what I want to see in those I work with.

 

[rdbass]

If her spinning shoulders approach works for others then good for them ... just not what I want to see in those I work with.

Dink...Dink.....I would have figured NO WORK would have guessed that on maybe his 10th guess.....But, nope......HaHa..

Hitter does spin her shoulders:

Wished she resisted shoulder rotation more and swing 'out from'. May be place the tee for an outside pitch.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Folks, please review the following video again and take note of what portion of the swing is being timed.



This description IMO is fairly accurate.

You don't time the ball with your 'hands', but with your 'torso'. The reason Hosmer feels the timing this way, IMO, is because he understands the feel of the torso's adductive action 'in a turn'.

Bypassing this, as the girl being discussed does, is not a great thing IMO.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

Dink...Dink.....I would have figured NO WORK would have guessed that on maybe his 10 time.....But, nope......HaHa..

Hitter does spin her shoulders:

Wished she resisted shoulder rotation more and swing 'out from'. May be place the tee for an outside pitch.

Well said.

Proper use of the torso, used in an adductive manner upon the rear humerus (upper arm), would provide the early resistance of the shoulder spin we see.

 

[Work=wins]

Dink...Dink.....I would have figured NO WORK would have guessed that on maybe his 10 time.....But, nope......HaHa..

Hitter does spin her shoulders:

Wished she resisted shoulder rotation more and swing 'out from'. May be place the tee for an outside pitch.

Good morning RD
Of course that's what I've been saying, did you read my Epstein reference or my body path comment? My first comments were about no 'barrel turn'. Later on I said why... I will admit I am not as eloquent as some members on here. It's all good. Have a nice day!

Or at least TRY to have a nice day!

 

[rdbass]

So much for having me on ignore:

I'm just glad you're finally listening and learning.......keep up the good work......your students will thank us..

 

[Work=wins]

Hahaha. You deleted that last post. Too funny. I was just about to respond . This day is getting better and better.

 

[Work=wins]

Just take the L dude. It's all good .