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May 24, 2013
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Thanks Todd and thanks for replying to my text so fast this morning! I had a few minutes and called LS's customer service again today, after talking to and telling the first idiot to get me a supervisor, that was definitely no better! I was told if I wanted a bat soon I'd have to buy one, period! That it would be sometime in June before I could get a 33/23 LXT. She did say I could get a 2017 CF9 with my warranty voucher but they didn't have any -10 balanced models, just slapper and end loaded models. She started trying to tell me how the slapper model would benefit my 5'0" right handed DD who has NEVER slapped a ball in her life! I politely asked her to stop talking and please listen, and it's like she didn't even hear me, just kept talking...........I'm done with them!

Wow.......
 

CoreSoftball20

Wilson = Evil Empire
DFP Vendor
Dec 27, 2012
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Kunkletown, PA
Thanks Todd and thanks for replying to my text so fast this morning! I had a few minutes and called LS's customer service again today, after talking to and telling the first idiot to get me a supervisor, that was definitely no better! I was told if I wanted a bat soon I'd have to buy one, period! That it would be sometime in June before I could get a 33/23 LXT. She did say I could get a 2017 CF9 with my warranty voucher but they didn't have any -10 balanced models, just slapper and end loaded models. She started trying to tell me how the slapper model would benefit my 5'0" right handed DD who has NEVER slapped a ball in her life! I politely asked her to stop talking and please listen, and it's like she didn't even hear me, just kept talking...........I'm done with them!

What a POS she is...you can see how things have changed. They want to pawn bats that aren't selling off on their customers...even LIE to their customers
to do it. All about THEIR benefit, even if it screws their customer!!!! Reminds you of when you call into certain big stores
and their "professional" advice. Makes me sick to be brutally honest.

And people tell me I am just bitter because they half ruined my business and that I shouldn't be mad or "it is what it is". No, I am just as pissed
because this is the stuff that is happening. I was lied to by Mike O'Brien and other suits there and they didn't care, and now some customers are finally seeing
what I have dealt with for over half a year. Again, most people will buy and not care about who was screwed over, but I really hope people will
stand up and reconsider who they give their money to.
 

marriard

Not lost - just no idea where I am
Oct 2, 2011
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Florida
Once Wilson took over LS a couple years ago...the stock was cut down. Now they do not get as much stock from China as they
used to. That's why things are on back order a week after they come out. Not much stock is kept and they really have no idea
when they will get more. And actually, with new ones coming out soon I suppose, you might not see any but who knows. Good luck
on the wait. Need a Quatro, lmk...haha

Its a bad idea in my opinion, you need to keep warranty bats around even if sometimes it causes some old
stock. So you make a couple less bucks...when your making that much money, a couple dollars shouldn't
matter in the scheme of things to keep customers happy

So what is left to buy?

Easton is, well, Easton....
Wilson (corrected) covers LS, Demarini...
Axe is actually underrated, but it is still not the bat the LXT or CF series is.
Andersen bats are still substandard these days (I remember when the old ones used to be scary in the right hands)
Combat apparently is still selling fastpitch bats but I have not see one on the field this year
Mizuno Nighthawk? I can't say I have seen one of these either?

So Rawlings Quatro? Is that it?
 
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CoreSoftball20

Wilson = Evil Empire
DFP Vendor
Dec 27, 2012
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Kunkletown, PA
Combat is not in business...Bought by Bauer which owns Easton. Bauer let Easton dissolve Combat. And now Easton
is silently on the auction block.
 

CoreSoftball20

Wilson = Evil Empire
DFP Vendor
Dec 27, 2012
6,235
113
Kunkletown, PA
So what is left to buy?

Easton is, well, Easton....
Worth covers LS, Demarini...
Axe is actually underrated, but it is still not the bat the LXT or CF series is.
Andersen bats are still substandard these days (I remember when the old ones used to be scary in the right hands)
Combat apparently is still selling fastpitch bats but I have not see one on the field this year
Mizuno Nighthawk? I can't say I have seen one of these either?

So Rawlings Quatro? Is that it?

Unfortunately, manufacturers have let Wilson run rampant in fp. Havent realized what this market can bring. Wilson
does and is making sure to milk fastpitch for every penny and mow down anybody who tries and stop the cash cow.

I really hope Rawlings comes out even stronger and uses their technology they already have access to.

Btw, Miken is Worth is Rawlings...all owned together. Worth has nothing to do with Wilson
 
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Jul 29, 2013
6,799
113
North Carolina
So what is left to buy?

Easton is, well, Easton....
Worth covers LS, Demarini...
Axe is actually underrated, but it is still not the bat the LXT or CF series is.
Andersen bats are still substandard these days (I remember when the old ones used to be scary in the right hands)
Combat apparently is still selling fastpitch bats but I have not see one on the field this year
Mizuno Nighthawk? I can't say I have seen one of these either?

So Rawlings Quatro? Is that it?

Hey marriard, our senior HC catcher uses a Nighthawk. Now I've hit just about every bat I can think of but for some reason I've never hit her bat? It has a soft sound almost like my DD's old black & red CF6. This girl rips the ball, never actually tested exit speed but she hits lasers, scary shots in the infield. I'd say it's a hot bat, but it's the only one I've ever actually seen on a field.
 
Jul 29, 2013
6,799
113
North Carolina
Unfortunately, manufacturers have let Wilson run rampant in fp. Havent realized what this market can bring. Wilson
does and is making sure to milk fastpitch for every penny and mow down anybody who tries and stop the cash cow.

I really hope Rawlings comes out even stronger and uses their technology they already have access to.

Hey Core, I'm thinking about just biting the bullet and buying a Quatro and cashing in the voucher later......how's the durability on that bat? Is it a rebranded 2Legit or has Rawlings put more into it than Worth did. I know in our circles the 2Legit had an almost cult following, but EVERY girl I know that had one broke at least 2 or 3.
 
Jul 29, 2013
6,799
113
North Carolina
Todd, a little story for you to prove you're not the only one hating Wilson now. I had around a 15 minute conversation with a guy today that supplies our travel organization and just this year he outfitted our HS team. I contacted him about the bat inventory issue I'm having, first words out of his mouth were "D*** don't get me started!" His words....Demarini is absolutely the golden child and LS is the ugly red headed step child as far as Wilson is concerned!

He said what you said, LS used to get inventory in everyday to fill back orders and cover warranty claims, he said now those idiots in customer service really have no clue when they'll get shipments cause no one really actually knows!! He said he used to have a dedicated rep to help but now he has to call CS like everyone else when he has a problem. He told me "I absolutely understand your frustration!" I was thinking about ordering me a custom A2000, NOT NOW! Think I'll put me together a custom Heart of the Hide on the Rawlings builder.
 
May 24, 2013
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113
So Cal
Hey Core, I'm thinking about just biting the bullet and buying a Quatro and cashing in the voucher later......how's the durability on that bat? Is it a rebranded 2Legit or has Rawlings put more into it than Worth did. I know in our circles the 2Legit had an almost cult following, but EVERY girl I know that had one broke at least 2 or 3.

One of the larger TB org in So Cal was using Miz bats last year. The majority of the feedback I heard was "meh". I won a Nighthawk in a raffle. I gave it to one of my DDs teammates to use as a cage bat.
 

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