Which one would go farther?

[JJsqueeze]

I'm not sure why you keep posting the same link and refuting the same point, we get it, you don't agree with his findings. The best I can do for you is a modified list that GM posted in another thread with some additional info. about this topic. If you read some of the info and still refute it then you can check the references get the names of some of the idiots who do this work and write angry letters to them, by my count there are about 15 of them that actively work bat ball collisions and they seem to agree with each other.

Websites:
Dr. Alan Nathan's Physics of Baseball website The Physics of Baseball - Pioneers of the Field
Dr. Rod Cross' home page Rod's Home Page

Washington State Sports Science lab Welcome to the SSL @ WSU

ESPN Sports Science explaining ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFa0_G8tfs8&feature=g-high-rec

 

[JJsqueeze]

a link to a thread where the good doctor shows amazing patience with some folks with strikingly similar opinions to you and the other trogs in this thread...

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/everything_you_wanted_to_know_about_the_science_of_the_bat_ball_collision/#comments

 

[JJsqueeze]

and lastly...Dr. Nathan (POBGUY)...dropping knowledge at DFP and again showing amazing patience.

http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-practical/18090-hand-action-contact-5.html

So on the one side we have physicists, engineers, the testing body that certifies bats, ESPN and presumably God himself and on the other side we have "it don't make no cotton pickin sense"...choose wisely.

 

[BadMonkeys]

a link to a thread where the good doctor shows amazing patience with some folks with strikingly similar opinions to you and the other trogs in this thread...

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/everything_you_wanted_to_know_about_the_science_of_the_bat_ball_collision/#comments

Those conversations are strikingly similar.

 

[ian]

and lastly...Dr. Nathan (POBGUY)...dropping knowledge at DFP and again showing amazing patience.

http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-practical/18090-hand-action-contact-5.html

So on the one side we have physicists, engineers, the testing body that certifies bats, ESPN and presumably God himself and on the other side we have "it don't make no cotton pickin sense"...choose wisely.

Nice. You say im a zombie, trog and a cotton picker.

I enjoy civil discussion, talking to you falls short of that.

Welcome to the SSL @ WSU
I wonder how they clamp the bat. Do they clamp it rock solid in a vise? Do they try to simulate 'the average persons' grip? Lots of good info in there.

Espn said the the shorter the bat the more sensitive. You are sensitive. Maybe that why Barry Bonds choked up on a 32", stiffer the better.

 

[riseball]

and lastly...Dr. Nathan (POBGUY)...dropping knowledge at DFP and again showing amazing patience.

http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-hitting-practical/18090-hand-action-contact-5.html

So on the one side we have physicists, engineers, the testing body that certifies bats, ESPN and presumably God himself and on the other side we have "it don't make no cotton pickin sense"...choose wisely.

Both scientists and ESPN!!! Well then pour me a big tall glass of Kool-Aid! After all they totally nailed the whole global cooling, er I mean global warming thing. And since it is on the Internet, which by the way was invented by the same guy who invented global warming, by law it must be true.

 

[Greenmonsters]

Those conversations are strikingly similar.

Strikingly so, with the exception that the non-believer to believer conversion rate seemed much higher there. Probably due to the fact that the explanation was provided by an experienced physics professor who retired to focus on being a baseball physics geek. And maybe a more open-minded audience?

IMO, JJs has been extremely patient and done such a fine job in this thread that he should be awarded an additional softball.

 

[Greenmonsters]

Both scientists and ESPN!!! Well then pour me a big tall glass of Kool-Aid! After all they totally nailed the whole global cooling, er I mean global warming thing. And since it is on the Internet, which by the way was invented by the same guy who invented global warming, by law it must be true.

RB - I'm guessing that you have not yet taken the opportunity to read the Hand Action at Contact link as the case and evidence are stronger than that for the non-rising riseball IMO. Why drink Kool-Aid when adult beverages are being offered?

 

[JJsqueeze]

Disagreeing with something because you have an opposing viewpoint that can be backed up by information is one thing. Blindly just saying no when overwhelming information is presented is actually more akin to drinking the kool aid, the only difference is you mixed it yourself.

 

[JJsqueeze]

Nice. You say im a zombie, trog and a cotton picker.

I enjoy civil discussion, talking to you falls short of that.

Welcome to the SSL @ WSU
I wonder how they clamp the bat. Do they clamp it rock solid in a vise? Do they try to simulate 'the average persons' grip? Lots of good info in there.

Espn said the the shorter the bat the more sensitive. You are sensitive. Maybe that why Barry Bonds choked up on a 32", stiffer the better.

He said "stiffer the better"...don't get all sensitive with me, I didn't mean you were actually a zombie, I was only saying that your ability to grasp new concepts was zombie LIKE, I am sure you don't actually eat human flesh and walk slowly while grunting. Well...actually I am just sure you don't eat human flesh.