Launch Movement

[NoonTime]

Come on Rich, you can read better than to conclude this:

With their argument they are claiming that hitters swing without any knowledge of, or alignment to, a predicted spot of contact. And that that is what I teach

No one is saying this.

We saw from the Miggy clip that he more or less reaches max tip at frame 8 the same way. Yes he is reading the pitch during this.

Then we also determined that he launched from frame 11. I'll even grant you that he launched the same way with the same barrel path relative to his body alignment in clip 3 and 5.

So let's continue to talk about what gets him from 8 to 11. Your term... LAUCH MOVEMENT. Not all this other stuff you keep mucking up the discussion with. We all know and all agree that during the LAUCH Movement that Miggy continues to read the pitch and make adjustments so that he launches with a knowledge and alignment to a predicted location.

You identified one means of adjusting to inside location via the pivoting still stretched assembly. Cool. What about up/down location? If there is one thing I am sure of, it's that you have something to say on the topic. Hit me with that indisputable truth!

 

[Eric F]

We saw from the Miggy clip that he more or less reaches max tip at frame 8 the same way. Yes he is reading the pitch during this.

Then we also determined that he launched from frame 11. I'll even grant you that he launched the same way with the same barrel path relative to his body alignment in clip 3 and 5.

So let's continue to talk about what gets him from 8 to 11.

If he's not yet launching, and still reading location, it would make sense (to me) that there is likely some adjustment happening in the 8-11 window in preparation for the directional launch. Then again, I'm pretty dumb. I could be completely wrong. If I am, I'd sure like to know what is happening.

 

[Howe]

TwoTonTessy already went on record saying it was Launch THEN Direct. Fact! So now he's just flat out lying about HIS pre-launch direction. OR maybe he's saying Direct-Launch-Direct???

Even so, he still has no idea what to do with the hands, other than to turn them like a motha. IOW's he can choose a spot to get the barrel to all day long. If he don't know how to deliver the barrel correctly, it's all for naught. We've already seen the hard-right turn he taught his own son...

 

[FP26]

TwoTonTessy already went on record saying it was Launch THEN Direct. Fact! So now he's just flat out lying about HIS pre-launch direction. OR maybe he's saying Direct-Launch-Direct???

Even so, he still has no idea what to do with the hands, other than to turn them like a motha. IOW's he can choose a spot to get the barrel to all day long. If he don't know how to deliver the barrel correctly, it's all for naught. We've already seen the hard-right turn he taught his own son...

When I read the recent quotes about "float" it sounds very similar to Direct-Load-Launch to me. At least the way I understand it.

 

[NoonTime]

If he's not yet launching, and still reading location, it would make sense (to me) that there is likely some adjustment happening in the 8-11 window in preparation for the directional launch. Then again, I'm pretty dumb. I could be completely wrong. If I am, I'd sure like to know what is happening.

Exactly Eric! It's the "how" that adjustment is happening that is what Rich is apparently afraid of. Why? I don't know, maybe it invalidates some of his other mantras? He won't say how one adjusts during the LAUNCH MOVEMENT. That being said, I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference between a "directional launch" and "direct then launch" and "launches rearward so that the barrel arcs to a predetermined 'general' spot".

When you copy and paste you'll learn something.

Ok let's try again. But please read carefuly because you keep saying illogical things, and I'll assume it's because you just aren't reading closely enough, as opposed to you just not being able to logically discuss the irrefutable truth.

Your attempt to dispute launch and spend failed.

I am not disputing launch and spend. That's in the all in launch. Remember, like you said. After the launch movement.

Your current attempt to prove direct then launch has failed....

I'm not trying to prove direct then launch. I am asking you to explain the process by which a hitter makes adjustments during the LAUNCH MOVEMENT so that they can:

whether you know it or not. A high level hitter launches rearward so that the barrel arcs to a predetermined 'general' spot

And again, what adjustments are made during LAUNCH MOVEMENT such that the barrel is all in launched towards the 'general' spot?

the spot that his decision to launch was based on, and because of that rearward direction he THEN directs to the more 'specific' spot.....learned on the fly....after the launch.

Which is all fine and good and can very well be an indisputable truth, but is wholly unrelated to any directing that happened before launch... You know, in the LAUNCH MOVEMENT.

Ok Rich, I see your hang up... I can fix it. We need to differentiate 'general' directing during LAUNCH MOVEMENT from 'specific' directing post LAUNCH. That wasn't so hard now was it. Suggestions on a naming convention? We make up terms for everything else, why not this.

How about we use 'directing' for the 'general' spot directing.
Let's use 'diriching' for the 'specific' spot directing.

LAUNCH AND DIRICH!

Ok maybe that doesn't work so well

Copy and paste is your next move.

Done. What's next?

 

[Howe]

How come we can see the knob on one of these but not the other??? Is that part of the Launch/Dirich? I don't think so. I'm thinking those hands have a different idea... and much earlier than Dirich's "Launch".

 

[Eric F]

I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference between a "directional launch" and "direct then launch" and "launches rearward so that the barrel arcs to a predetermined 'general' spot".

I don't think there is a whole lot of difference. In my head, the jury is still out on how much - if any - physical adjustment should happen before launch, during the reading of the pitch location. I see a whole lot of it in the flawed swings of young hitters, but it seems to disappear in the HL swings we use as examples.

 

[Howe]

I don't think there is a whole lot of difference. In my head, the jury is still out on how much - if any - physical adjustment should happen before launch, during the reading of the pitch location. I see a whole lot of it in the flawed swings of young hitters, but it seems to disappear in the HL swings we use as examples.

The flaws - young hitters - that you see - hand dropping, shoulder dropping, getting on the front side early, etc. All cheat moves for lack of trust...

Those are not the adjustments that are being discussed here.

 

[Howe]

This video is exactly why Pronk contacted me - and we worked together prior to Steven's Sr. year... LOL

It's also the video that Tewks and I discussed the night that he told me he was leaving HI...

They both wanted to know why my son was no longer bound up.

 

[Howe]

This is what Steven looked like when Pronk was following HI instruction. Notice the bound up rear elbow.

What do you think we went to work on? How do you think you unbind the rear elbow from stalling against the ribcage? It's called using the hands correctly...

I love it!

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