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tjintx

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I'm in the back of the classroom waiting my turn. I do have a question about these swings that has bothered me for a long time. No offense to anyone but can someone please give me an answer..... Why does his head go backward at launchtime in every swing? I have looked at a few high level swings and even some not so high level swings and most don't go backwards.
 
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I'm in the back of the classroom waiting my turn. I do have a question about these swings that has bothered me for a long time. No offense to anyone but can someone please give me an answer..... Why does his head go backward at launchtime in every swing? I have looked at a few high level swings and even some not so high level swings and most don't go backwards.

I don't think you're seeing this swing from a straight on side view, his head appearing to go backwards is a product of his lateral tilt and the angle the swing is filmed at IMO.
 

Howe

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I don't think you're seeing this swing from a straight on side view, his head appearing to go backwards is a product of his lateral tilt and the angle the swing is filmed at IMO.
Tommy, the translation of what "The Project" wrote: Don't believe your lying eyes.

The truth: This hitter was taught to swing one-legged. He was taught to pull back and clamp his scap tight. He was taught to aggressively torque the barrel, but not direct the handle at go. And he was taught to "slip the hip". He was taught to Dip then swing. Combine all that non-sense, and you get what you see.

If that above swing is what you are looking for, go for it.
 
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Howe

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Ok i think i understand. It's 2 different parts of the swing. The initial launch the knob would be toward oppo batters box or the plate and then after turning the corner get the knob in front of the pant pocket. Sound right?
Correct, except for the upper right pane. As Donny mentioned, the knob can start toward the pitcher, but that's mainly what a pull type hitter would do. The beauty of Miggy is his reaction and ability to apply either/or based on the pitch.

Now the rub. HI does not endorse or teach anything relating to direction of the hands. They turn the barrel early and aggressively. Then they magically guide it to the ball.
 
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I wouldn't say magically. It's more like the brain is directing the hands/arms based on what the eyes are seeing...

I am just trying to clarify what it is that you are saying - (based on DB) you initially turn the knob towards the oppo batters box before turning the barrel into the ball unless the pitch is inside - then you turn the knob towards the pitcher?

I guess I just see that as turning the barrel into the pitch location your eyes/brain are determining - why break it down into 2 steps? Because if you are directing the knob direction the barrel is obvi being turned...

Correct, except for the upper right pane. As Donny mentioned, the knob can start toward the pitcher, but that's mainly what a pull type hitter would do. The beauty of Miggy is his reaction and ability to apply either/or based on the pitch.

Now the rub. HI does not endorse or teach anything relating to direction of the hands. They turn the barrel early and aggressively. Then they magically guide it to the ball.
 

Howe

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Aug 28, 2013
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I wouldn't say magically. It's more like the brain is directing the hands/arms based on what the eyes are seeing...

I am just trying to clarify what it is that you are saying - (based on DB) you initially turn the knob towards the oppo batters box before turning the barrel into the ball unless the pitch is inside - then you turn the knob towards the pitcher?

I guess I just see that as turning the barrel into the pitch location your eyes/brain are determining - why break it down into 2 steps? Because if you are directing the knob direction the barrel is obvi being turned...
Ray, that breaks it down to two reactions, and there's no thinking about it. Is it really that difficult a price to pay for adjustability? You're familiar with Epstein's fence drill, right? What do you think that's all about?
 
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RayR

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I am familiar with a fence drill but I don't know if it is the same as "epstein's fence drill".

I do know that I focus on the back arm path when having players do it instead of pulling across with the front arm. The back arm path coupled with forearm rotation gets the barrel along the fence line early and keeps it there much longer as the back arm is allowed to unfold - than focusing on the front arm pull across.

Ray, that breaks it down to two reactions, and there's no thinking about it. Is it really that difficult a price to pay for adjustability? You're familiar with Epstein's fence drill, right? What do you think that's all about?
 
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Howe, this is just my ramblings but you are using Miggy as an example which most people here do not have that ability. If the average MLB hitter looks to attack oppo and gets a 95 mph fast ball in he is done. My simple opinion is that you need to take the inside away and adjust to outside.
 
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Not very smart person on hitting but here it goes. HI adjustment on location is the scap circle. Inside pitches the bicep pinch will last longer and appears tighter. The rear elbow does not work as low. Outside pitches as the ball is traveling the elbow keeps working under longer which allows for ball travel longer. Pinch bi loosens a bit durning this, not as strong of a postion. Down and out is effect because it breaks fusion down sooner. If going to debate this with video use a knee high pitch on the corner.
 
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Howe, can a hitter come out and attack oppo then adjust inside and hit the inside seam? He might feel like he is staying inside seam but its a total different swing. Try putting a ball on a tee on the inside corner, attack oppo with one swing and then attack inside right from the start on the second swing. Total different results.
 

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